Prometheans/Humans/Disquiet

Do humans that know what Prometheans are suffer disquiet?  This would be someone who was apart of a Hunter cell that knew what the supernatural nature of Prometheans were, not someone who was around a Promethean.  My guess would be no, but I want to make sure.

Thanks,

Tet

I think disquiet is intended to work on a deeper level than "Now I know what's up with the half-alive pariah people I no longer want to shun them." It's a supernatural reaction which causes people to think and act irrationally. Obviously it's up to your ST, though if I were running it, I'd just make it so that humans somehow knowledgable in how disquiet manifests have to do a little more mental gymnastics before convincing themselves that they need to shun/blame/send for a lynch mob after the offending Promethean.

tetnak:

My guess would be no, but I want to make sure.

Unless the person in question has a high enough willpower to look beyond the disquiet, but those people are few and far between.

Emyunoxious:

And your guess would be right. Prometheans have abilities which can lessen the effects of Disquiet, but just knowing they exist wouldn't do it. It's a soul-deep reaction, where the very nature of the Divine Fire animating dead flesh repulses those truly alive. It's not something they have any real control over.

As I remember, the humans get a roll to check if they're affected by Disquiet.

I think that, at best, the Hunter would have to correct his basic and instinctive reactions, even if he knows the Promethean and has dealt with him extensively before.

For example, take Hunter A and Tammuz B

A) "So, you really think that there is something dangerous going on in that factory?"

B) "Yes.  The handful of my kind in this city are diminishing in number.  We have investigated this company, and our evidence is fairly conclusive."

A) "I'm not sure your leads are solid.  Why don't I go with you, next time, and look into it further?  You can go in before me, just in case it's dangerous."

B) "What?"

A) "You're better at taking damage.  Besides, you're already dead.  I'm still alive.  I'm more valuable than you are.  Why should I risk myself, when you could go in and get the information for me?"

B) "...But, I already did.  And you said my information wasn't good enough."

A) "..Right.  Sorry, just.. hm.  Don't know what I was thinking.  You know how it goes."

B) "Don't worry, I'm used to people doing that."

Dr. Frankenstein knew quite well what he was dealing with, and look how that turned out.  It shouldn't matter what a human knows, they have no control over Disquiet affecting thm no matter how much they might wish otherwise.  This is the very thing that spurs Prometheans to complete their pilgrimage.

It's all the more tragic when someone is aware of what is happening and still can't help feeling revulsion for an otherwise innocent being.

Besides, Prometheans are misbegotten things that should not be, scorch the Earth physically and spiritually by their presence, and are just generally wrong.  Understanding that doesn't sound like the first step to immunity from Disquiet.

I do wonder what Sin-Eaters tend to think of Prometheans.  In particular, are they affected by Disquiet in the same way, given the connection of Sin-Eaters to death?

Also, since I don't want to start an entire new topic for this minor question, can a Sin-Eater harvest ectoplasm from an Ulgan and use it as per normal Plasm, or would that go horribly wrong?

They probably couldn't; Ectoplasmic Humour isn't really the same as regular ectoplasm (though ectoplasm does drip off of an Ulgan's scars, but I'm guessing not enough of it to make a harvest).  Unless there's some way a sineater can harvest from a human, in which case I'd suggest doing the same as for vampires and allowing them to get half from a Promethean that they would from a human.

I forget, do the Redeemed suffer from Disquiet?

Sometimes; depends how well their rebirth goes.

There's actually a story in one of the opening books about a female riven who is in a relationship with a human. It mentions that humans can interpret disquiet in different ways, depending on what they think of the Promethean to begin with. In his case, since he adored her and was fascinated with how superior they seemed, it manifested as wanting to become one himself. A centimanus wound up granting his wish, but she destroyed her former lover as soon as he woke up. And died of metal BEEEEEEES.

To put it another way, no matter how you love or hate someone, you're 100% free to act however you want, as the human will is ultimately sacrosanct (at least, before MIND POWERZ come into play). But at max disquiet, you're still a crazy fucker that spreads it everywhere with -3 dice to everything.

DoktorWario:

A centimanus wound up granting his wish, but she destroyed her former lover as soon as he woke up.

Wouldn't that just be his body?