Diablere

Does diablere grant dot on Covenant Disciplines: Coils of the Dragon, Theban Sorcery or Cruac?

If the answer is no, does the En bloodline last Alu gift, allow to diablere get such disciplines?

Yes to Theban and Cruac, no to Coils.

No, the En bloodline cannot bypass this restriction on Coils.

Blunt Vorpal:

Yes to Theban and Cruac, no to Coils.

No, the En bloodline cannot bypass this restriction on Coils.

Thanks, can you give me a book page or errata link?

it's called diablerie though, isn't it? Sorry for being a grammar nazi...

Not to feel sorry,  i didn't remember the correct way of writing and my English dictionary doesn't have such word, jeje. But that being said, can you help me to find where is stated that Coils cannot be gained with diablerie?

About the Coils, there's a small box at page 46 of Covenant Book: Ordo Dracul clearly stating that they can't be absorbed within the soul of a vampire, stolen through diablerie. Wasn't able to find anything about Crúac and Theban sorcery but I believe they can be in some ways granted by diablerie, like most people answered here.

Just to (hopefully) explain why you can't learn the coils through diablerie:

Diablerie gives you knowledge, which is all that is usually required for the generally available disciplines.  However, Coils are actual physical changes made to your vampiric body.  It physically alters the nature of your "curse" or whatever you want to call it.  Notice that you can't learn special bloodline powers through diablerie, either, as joining a bloodline (which grants the access to those powers) also entails an actual physical change.  You couldn't gain a Coil through diablerie anymore than you could change your hair color through diablerie.

That said, I've always houseruled that you could diablerize special bloodline powers (though still not otherwise increase them).  The books want to discourage the idea of a chain diablerist having just about every power out there, but I find that sort of villain to be interesting and thus encourage such things.

mplindustries:

That said, I've always houseruled that you could diablerize special bloodline powers (though still not otherwise increase them).  The books want to discourage the idea of a chain diablerist having just about every power out there, but I find that sort of villain to be interesting and thus encourage such things.

Well, is your houserule, so yo can put anthing you want on it, but if you want an "official" creature with that ability, the En bloodline (Ancient Bloodlines) is what you want, but you have to be BP 10 to obtain that ability, but fits your idea

mplindustries:

The books want to discourage the idea of a chain diablerist having just about every power out there, but I find that sort of villain to be interesting and thus encourage such things.

He'd be like Sylar from Heroes. I like it