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Oh, I know prerequisite charms don't exist for astrology charms but is it possible to make permanent upgrades for them?

Also, do colleges charms go past five... If so can you give an example what an essence and college ten charm would do?
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Oh, I know prerequisite charms don't exist for astrology charms but is it possible to make permanent upgrades for them?


My instinct would be to say no. Both in the sense that you can never go "this Charm upgrades its prerequisite," and moreover in that they're all really intended to be stand-alone magic.

Also, do colleges charms go past five... If so can you give an example what an essence and college ten charm would do?


Yes, there are The Treasure Trove 7, Essence 7 Charms out there somewhere. They're probably pretty epic.
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My instinct would be to say no. Both in the sense that you can never go "this Charm upgrades its prerequisite," and moreover in that they're all really intended to be stand-alone magic.


Hmm... So you could never get a better "An End to Darkness" charm...
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Epimetheus:

Hmm... So you could never get a better "An End to Darkness" charm...


As far as Ending Darkness goes, that one's pretty penultimate anyway.
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Hmm... So you could never get a better "An End to Darkness" charm...


As far as Ending Darkness goes, that one's pretty penultimate anyway.


Almost. I mean what if you were facing Ligier and by striping him of his ties to Malfeas you could get him to stop? You aren't going to get ligier to consent to this.
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So you have to talk Ligier into it or else you can't headshot Malfeas with a single charm?  I'm thinking that's not an unreasonable restriction.

Speculating on what high-essence charms of this sort would look like is interesting.  From what I can see, they're linked to the flavor of the astrological college, which is both a really cool premise and shockingly nasty when you look at the associations some of the constellations have.
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Got a quick question, hoping for clarification.

The Chain Daiklave is a Form weapon for Crystal Chameleon. But when it's being used as a Short Daiklave or Dire Chain it wouldn't, would it?


Correct.

This is one reason I'm not wild about the chain daiklave, cool as it otherwise is. Muddles up MA :\


Would you think it is to much to add ther Fighting Chain to the list of Form Weapons?
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So you have to talk Ligier into it or else you can't headshot Malfeas with a single charm?  I'm thinking that's not an unreasonable restriction.


Well I was referring to him rampaging in creation.
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Epimetheus:

Well I was referring to him rampaging in creation.


That sounds like a job for SMA!  Incidentally, I think the 'no combo' restriction is a pretty clever way to allow SMA to remain important to Sidereals who have access to these miracles.  Y'know, if paradox and the 'everyone in heaven will be pissed at you' weren't enough.
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Yeah, I love SMA but unless you are a sidereal elder with Essence 8+ styles, that isn't going to be much of a fight preparation or not.
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Epimetheus:
Yeah, I love SMA but unless you are a sidereal elder with Essence 8+ styles, that isn't going to be much of a fight preparation or not.
That depends, if you are using Obsidian Shards of Infinity ..
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Obsidian Shards:
Holden:
Obsidian Shards:
Got a quick question, hoping for clarification.

The Chain Daiklave is a Form weapon for Crystal Chameleon. But when it's being used as a Short Daiklave or Dire Chain it wouldn't, would it?


Correct.

This is one reason I'm not wild about the chain daiklave, cool as it otherwise is. Muddles up MA :\


Would you think it is to much to add ther Fighting Chain to the list of Form Weapons?


I left it off on purpose, but it wouldn't wreck the game's balance or anything if you houseruled it in.
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If it were easy to describe in few words, believe me, we would have used those few words instead of calling it samsara.

In some sense, it's just the future. It's what's going to happen. But it's also the substrata of existence upon which the shinma rest, and the source of the beautiful and terrifying metaphysical truths that power Sidereal Martial Arts. It's ur-fate, although it's also more than ur-fate.

Please don't knife me, but I think I'm just going to start calling it quantum metaplot.

Oh and as an aside, just from reading the name and the form weapons I am SO making a one-winged crane style martial artist.
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Odd_Canuck:
quantum metaplot.

That was actually my first response.

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Odd_Canuck:
Please don't knife me, but I think I'm just going to start calling it quantum metaplot.


It's really not.
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