The Perfect and Infernal Exaltation

Today, in the bus, i was thinking: "This guy is perfect for GSP exaltation" (ironically)...
The man is practically a Defiler...
His Motivation is "To preserve order and maintain his rule"... Someone said hierarchy?
And also he is a frustrated solar..all the time he wants exaltation, and all the time it was denied to him....
Until one day, a demon offers him the power of She Who Lives in her Name...

Now, let's say the guy acepted.... He has the potential to become the more powerfull of all GSP.

Why?

First: The guy have acumulated a lot of power and knoledge into all this years.

Second: The guy as a crazy septer (which, with exaltation, can grant him greater powers).

Third: The guy as a whole empiere that is unquestionably loyal to him.

Fourth, and the most sweet: the guy has like 600 years..which, according to the rulebook, give him an Essence cap of 8, while all other Infernals will have a cap of 5...

All this can make him, in some time, as powerfull as a Deathlord.

Also, the guy is ambisious..and when he achive great power he will quite polity probably say "Screw you!" to the Yozis....
And he also have his own Eclipse bitch like backup.

Ideas? Opinions?

From what I've read of the Yozis, I doubt they would hand over an Infernal exaltation to a being like The Perfect, since, as you said, he's already very powerful and ambitious on his own. 

The Yozis and their agents look for Mortals who have failed, essentially.  People who tried to achieve greatness, but failed when it mattered most.  The Perfect has already achieved Greatness after a fashion, even if he's not Exalted.  He's outside of their usual criteria.

lonewolf23k:

From what I've read of the Yozis, I doubt they would hand over an Infernal exaltation to a being like The Perfect, since, as you said, he's already very powerful and ambitious on his own. 

The Yozis and their agents look for Mortals who have failed, essentially.  People who tried to achieve greatness, but failed when it mattered most.  The Perfect has already achieved Greatness after a fashion, even if he's not Exalted.  He's outside of their usual criteria.

Well, he failed at become a Solar. I dont know if that will count. For him, is like a great failure not to exalt.

EDIT: Also, the Yozis probably can make an exception to gain access to all the Perfect power and use it into the Reclamation. Just imagine the Perfect gaining access to the Last Supplicant of Endless Power.

I don't know if he would be Deathlord powerful, but the core concept sounds neat. One of the things to consider is that the Paragon has a significant population of enlightened mortals, which would be perfect for an Infernal to set up a helltech factory. How would the Realm respond to demonic powers gaining such a strong foothold right across the sea? How would the Perfect with his infernal powers respond to the encrouching locusts? In the original crusade of the machine god scenario Paragon is taken by the armies of Yugash, a green sun prince with the might of malfeas at his command is going to put up a hell of a tougher fight (no pun intended).

It could happen, I suppose...

But that thing that has always made the Perfect awesome to me is that he really is just the pinacle of what a mortal can achieve in exalted...

Maese Mateo:

Today, in the bus, i was thinking: "This guy is perfect for GSP exaltation" (ironically)...
The man is practically a Defiler...
His Motivation is "To preserve order and maintain his rule"... Someone said hierarchy?
And also he is a frustrated solar..all the time he wants exaltation, and all the time it was denied to him....
Until one day, a demon offers him the power of She Who Lives in her Name...

Now, let's say the guy acepted.... He has the potential to become the more powerfull of all GSP.

Why?

First: The guy have acumulated a lot of power and knoledge into all this years.

Second: The guy as a crazy septer (which, with exaltation, can grant him greater powers).

Third: The guy as a whole empiere that is unquestionably loyal to him.

Fourth, and the most sweet: the guy has like 600 years..which, according to the rulebook, give him an Essence cap of 8, while all other Infernals will have a cap of 5...

All this can make him, in some time, as powerfull as a Deathlord.

Also, the guy is ambisious..and when he achive great power he will quite polity probably say "Screw you!" to the Yozis....
And he also have his own Eclipse bitch like backup.

Ideas? Opinions?

I think the Yozi offer of Exaltation is an offer that cannot be refused.    I would suggest that the Essence cap is your life as an Exalt.  I think he would make an excellent candidate, he has thwarted destiny by claiming the power of an Exalt while remaining a mortal.  Can you say a third circle demon descended from She Who Lives in Her Name helping a certain Solar make a sceptre in the first age? 

I think the Yozis will target mortals with a lot of power who: are fearful of their mortality, resent the current hierarchy of heaven and have a goal that they wish they could accomplish if only they had more time/power/powerful allies.  Guild factors and Realm patricians scream for recruitment.

lantash1482:

One of the things to consider is that the Paragon has a significant population of enlightened mortals, which would be perfect for an Infernal to set up a helltech factory. How would the Realm respond to demonic powers gaining such a strong foothold right across the sea?

I think that that could be very dangerous at first. Having the flag of "Anathema City" is not something good. The Realm could take actions (maybe, or maybe not..depending of the internal strugles). He would not attract attention over him until the last moment, when he strikes with all his Infernal might to smash his enemies.
He will use the Cathedrals of Malfeas to build great stuff for war.

What i dont see is a great change into him. I'll see him almost like he is now. Trying to mantain order in Paragon..but now, he has the Urge to share the Perfect Order and Peace of Paragon with all the South (and then, all Creation).

When the time is right, he will take the Lap (and the Supplicant), then Chiaroscuro..then Gem...then Varangia...Then Harborhead...

With the Supplicant, he can make the Essence Shield he wants to protect the South from the Fair Folk.

lantash1482:

How would the Perfect with his infernal powers respond to the encrouching locusts? In the original crusade of the machine god scenario Paragon is taken by the armies of Yugash, a green sun prince with the might of malfeas at his command is going to put up a hell of a tougher fight (no pun intended).

He will battle them fiercy...until he realize that there is a way to go inside Autochton...then, well, another place to conquer and for grating power.

Pyrrhic Victory:

Can you say a third circle demon descended from She Who Lives in Her Name helping a certain Solar make a sceptre in the first age? 

Actually, is not that crazy...Even the Scepter can be a hellforged Third Circle soul of SWLIHN.
Who knows what ws inside the mind of the Solar Queen that makes it?

Pyrrhic Victory:

resent the current hierarchy of heaven and have a goal that they wish they could accomplish if only they had more time/power/powerful allies. 

The Perfect could probably fit here.

Maese Mateo:

Today, in the bus, i was thinking: "This guy is perfect for GSP exaltation" (ironically)...

Out of all the Exalt types, the one that the Perfect is tailor made for is actually a Sidereal Exaltation. Between the Great Contagion and the Fair Folk Invasion many of the fated inheriters of Sidereal Exaltations died or didn't die when they were supposed to. As such around 20 or Sidereal Exaltations are just sitting around waiting for their fated users to become the right age. Personally I think that the Perfect is destined to have an Exaltation from a current Sidereal Elder, possibly Kejak.

Solars, Dragon-Blooded and Lunar Exaltations would have done their mojo hundreds of years ago. An Infernal exaltation would be too risky for such a high profile target, also he would not lower himself to become an akuma.

Other than a Sidereal, the only other Exaltation type that would work would be an Abyssal exaltation. The Deathlords would have many uses for him, especially since they probably know more about his scepter than he does and the fact that if any group of PCs actually manages to defeat the Perfect without having to completely kill all of Paragon, it would be rather amusing to see the look on their faces as the defeated Perfect rises as an Abyssal.

From what I've read of the Yozis, I doubt they would hand over an Infernal exaltation to a being like The Perfect, since, as you said, he's already very powerful and ambitious on his own.

One of the goals of Cecelyne in the South is turning the Perfect to Yozi worship.

It's not that far out an idea.

One thing though, the Essence Trait Cap block says age since he exalted. So the Perfect, if exalted, would not benefit from his previous years. I think fluff wise it has something to do with becoming in tune with the Nature of your exalted essence, hence the disharmony which splits your essence pool.

The way I understand GSPs, Perfect is probably the worst candidate the Yozi could consider for the Infernal Exaltation.

As I understand it, the Yozi could give their Exaltation to anybody who could also Exalt as a Solar. They don't do it, though. They withhold the Exaltation and wait for the prospective Exalt to fail. They do so because by uplifting them in their moment of weakness rather than moment of strength, they make them thankful and most importantly, dependent.

Now, Perfect is anything but dependent. He's to used to ruling to take orders and too experienced to be easily wrapped around anyone's fingers. He's also extremely powerful and used to gathering and wielding power. Exaltation would be a big power boost for him, but it wouldn't impress him so much as the Yozi would prefer it did.

If there is anything the Yozi fear, it's their new great plan biting them in the ass. They already know what are the Exalted capable of, and they'd hate to suffer the same from people they empowered themselves. As a precaution, they made their recruitment policy extremely tight. Perfect is a guy who doesn't fit in with their policy, and he's the guy who could bite them in the ass if they empowered him anyway.

wouldn't the urge bend him a bit?

He already fits in with SWLIHN.

Hell they could seek to sabotage him and break his staff. Bet he'll get desperate and fail then.

Honestly I don't think the Perfect can exalt as a Sidereal anymore- he has extended his lifespan way beyond what he was fated, so i think he's SOL on that one.  Its only likely that he'll go for one of the 'evil' exalt types if some exalt kicks his ass and takes the Staff; if he survives, I could see him being driven to become a GSP, if he's killed in the process, becoming a Daybreak.  Being offered revenge at the dude who killed him and took his staff and precious city might drive him into the service of a deathlord.

They withhold the Exaltation and wait for the prospective Exalt to fail. They do so because by uplifting them in their moment of weakness rather than moment of strength, they make them thankful and most importantly, dependent.

Not so much. They just withhold it. You'll probably fail, because that's the thing about epic moments, they are above and beyond the normal day to day experience of people. Most of the time events like that crush people. Solars get a handy with magic to carry them through. Infernals do not. Then the demon inside you will try to corrupt you, but that's it. It'll try. Odds are in fact it may just fail. Demons are fucking weird, and they don't entirely get people. Now after they bring you to hell, that might break you.....but you are also Exalted by that point so maybe not. If anyone is inclined to shrug off the inhuman treatment that comes next, it's the Exalted.

What happens after you fail is largely meaningless though. If you seem interesting and useful, they'll power you up. And that's it. They'd *rather* certain things, but they are all batshit fucking crazy. If they had the chance to snag someone like the Perfect, they'd snag him in a minute. It's a risk worth taking, because anything beats another second in hell. One of the most powerful leaders in the world comes up for Exaltation under your banner? They are all aboard that train.

If there is anything the Yozi fear

Mostly they fear being stuck in hell forever. Beyond/above that, fetich death and becoming like the Neverborn. That's about it for fears.

Their policy is actually insanely fucking loose and batshit crazy besides. They choose failures. This is not the work of a sane and rational system. There is no some minor "Hey, now these guys can rewrite our natures and give us new power. Ha ha ha ha ha....ha ha.....ha?" going on, but that's it. Mostly they aren't afraid of their own Exalted, even if they should be. They are very, very, very angry. And very scared, and very broken. And they want out, more than anything else.

So they'll make the best weapons they can, and they'll throw everything they have at Creation, and either Creation will break or they will. They certainly aren't going to let the odds or reality or proper strategy get in the way though.