Help to Infernalize the Perfect

After my threat that explain why maybe the Perfect can become a GSP if he looses his Scepter and is kick out of Paragon..i need some help to make the transformation.

He is going to be a Defiler who's Urge is very similar to his Motivation actually, but now his Motivation is not only for Paragon, but for all Creation. His motto could probably be: "To assure peace and order in Creation, some rights and freedoms must be suppressed".

So, his Patron Yozi is SWLIHN.

1)Who could be his Favourite Yozi?

2)What Charms he will learn first?

3) What backgounds the exiled Perfect, now turned GSP, can have?

4) What demon give him the exaltation? (i dont remember which First Circle Demons are from SWLIHN).

1. Thats a toughie I'd go with Ebon Dragon or Malfeas possibly even Cecelyne

The Ebon Dragon has the self indulgence and enlightened Self interest along with the lack of a conscience, but his nature to violate laws makes him incompatible. So I'd guess despite the cool charms Ebon Dragon is out.

Malfeas has the Arrogance the authority and vengeance that is completely compatible with The Perfect.
Cecelyne has got the planning  patient deliberate action that also fits him.
So its a matter of how you want to portray him myself I went with Fiend for Caste and Malfeas for favored....

2.I'd say the perfect likely had a manse and artifacts stored away elsewhere in case he lost his kingdom.
   I'd also say he would likely still have agents that are still loyal to him and

For charms I would suggest:

Factual Determination Analysis
Unshattered Tongue Perfection
Essence Dissecting Stare
Mind Hand Manipulation
Counter Conceptual Interposition
Insignificant Embers Intuition
GreenSun Nimbus Flare
Immolating Terror Technique
Magnanimous Warning Glyph
First Malfean Excellency Essence Overwhelming.

I'd use that as a Basic starting point if you go the Malfean Route....

I'd say he would build upon his charm sets by picking up Malfeas' perfect defense next and I'd convert his sorcery over to both Malfean and SWLIHN's initiations. I would go for charms that show his superiorty over others and mastery over his surroundings.

Maese Mateo:

1)Who could be his Favourite Yozi?

The Perfect is an instrument of Law and Order. Chosen by the Principal of Hierarchy, he is no less beloved by the Endless Desert and is a great boon to her efforts in the southern front of the Reclamation.

Maese Mateo:

2)What Charms he will learn first?

Those who bend to the Perfect's restored Order will be rewarded; those who do not must be broken. From She Who Lives in Her Name, he will know Will-Crushing Force and its prerequisites. Among Cecelyne's charms, he will know Verdant Emptiness Endowment, its prerequisites, and some of its upgrades (depending on how many you wish to give him). This requires he have the Cecelyne Excellency.

Maese Mateo:

3) What backgounds the exiled Perfect, now turned GSP, can have?

Already some of his former subject whisper that their dear leader has not left them for good. They pray for his swift return to power, and his fame before being Chosen has earned him respect in the Demon City. His backgrounds include Cult 1, Backing (She Who Lives) 2, Influence 2, Connections 2, Unwoven Coadjutor 1. [probably some others, but I stripped his Backgrounds bare and built it back up with 7 he'd get at character creation; not sure the circumstances of his overthrow. It's possible he got to keep some of its own backgrounds).

Maese Mateo:

4) What demon give him the exaltation? (i dont remember which First Circle Demons are from SWLIHN).

A gethin, a Harvester of Rarities, was dispatched to collect such a prize as the Perfect of Paragon. A bit of the gethin remains in his mind, providing him with rare insight into value of objects in the exotic markets of Malfeas [Bureaucracy (+1 Unearthly Items)]. Unfortunately, the gethin's need to collect also remains within the Perfect. He suffers from the Obsession Defeciency. Exceptionally rare and exotic items, those he has never encountered before, capture his imagination. He must have them! In the presence of such an item, he suffers a -1 internal penalty on all actions not intended to acquire the item.


Edit: I was going to go with Malfeas originally, but I'm glad I switched. Decorus had many the same ideas I did. So now you have two options to pick from.

Decorus:

The Ebon Dragon has the self indulgence and enlightened Self interest along with the lack of a conscience

Huh? But the Perfect does have a conscience and the Ebon Dragon doesn't have enlightened self-interest. He specifically has un-enlightened self-interest. He specifically can't let other people benefit even if it benefits himself more.

Maese Mateo:

So, his Patron Yozi is SWLIHN.

1)Who could be his Favourite Yozi?

Cecelyne seems to fit best. You know, all that stuff about ruling, passing down laws and the kind, plus the strong southern theme. Frankly, I'd argue that he might be more suitable for a Malefactor Caste than Defiler.

Maese Mateo:

2)What Charms he will learn first?

SLN's Charms for discerning lies and reading minds would likely come first if you want him as a Defiler. Possibly add to that Sorcerer's Sight equivalent and SLN's Perfect Defense. Then, Cecelynian Charms for exerting authority, social and shaping defenses. In the next order, since you want him to be an exile, perhaps Cecelynian Charms for surviving in places of desolation. He's pretty good in the combat departament with all the TMA he has, so I guess other than getting a perfect defense he won't worry too much about that initially.

Maese Mateo:

3) What backgounds the exiled Perfect, now turned GSP, can have?

I know it's not the helpful answer, but that depends on how you want to portray him.

Assuming you want him suddenly and unexpectedly dethroned, he may have little to no backgrounds. Just give him the basic pack for GSPs, spending all seven points on new Artifacts given to him by his new masters.

Assuming you want him as more of an evil mastermind, assume he had contingency plans, like binding his most important subjects with more than just the Scepter and stashing some wealth in a hidden place outside of Paragon. This could give him Followers (resistance in Paragon, still loyal to him), as much Resources as you want to give him, possibly some Allies, Contacts, Spies and as many Artifacts as you feel necessary.

Maese Mateo:

4) What demon give him the exaltation? (i dont remember which First Circle Demons are from SWLIHN).

The only three SLN's First Circle Demons I could find are the Luminata (the killer stags made of white writhing spaghetti), Tomescu (the clouds with many weapon-wielding arms) and Gethin (the face-stealing lizards). Infernals book says SLN prefers her Luminata to do the job, and I'd say they give some of the coolest appearance options Infernals get, so I'd go with them.

I am more curious what failing you see him having that the Infernals could capitalize on.  What challange came up that he missed his chance at becoming a Solar for.

When the Solars came and took his pretty magic Stick he ran rather then trying to fight. He saved his own skin rather then showed he could lead Paragon with out his pretty magic stick.

Cecelyne is fitting because of her position in the South and, but she has the whole Priest thing....
Malfeas is fitting, because he is the Ruined King the mad and broken ruler who despises himself for his failings...

Its really a tough call between the two....

I like Cecelyne like Favourite...i found it suitable as an instrument to enforce rulership. The charms that impose law, good fullfilment of work in gods, listen to prayers and such..are all very cool for him.
Probably even a Cecelyne Urge can work good.

Malfeas is also good...but not as Cecelyne probably. I dont see the Perfect with all the smashing combat charms of Malfeas. The Charms i do like for him are the ones of rulership...but i dont think is usefull to have the whole Malfeas tree like favourite for only a small part of his Charms.

Definetly i dont see him with Ebon Dragon Charms (appart from the Loom cheating charms to conceal his identity and fate). The ED is a cheating bastard, and i dont see the Perfect back-staving his enemies... He is too proud for that.
Also, i dont see the Perfect like a Fiend, because i dont find it in theme or personallity. He is an agent of Law and Order, not a cheater.

The Cult  backgound is a good idea. Probably some of his citizens really appreciete his work and now fear that the anathemas will enslave their souls or something like that.
Originally he has Cult 4...when, of course, his cult is now going to be illegal...he can probably have Cult at 2 or 3 from secret worshipers...and a new cult he can probably open.

The problem with Gethin is that they look like Muppets, but also can make an interesting choice.

Celycene is a good second yozi, but since I'd like to give you another option I am going to throw out Malfeas. An exiled Perfect is as much the "fallen King" as Malfeas. He is a despot though a benevolent one

I'd probably change his Urge to "To assure peace and order in Creation, all rights and freedoms must be suppressed."

Lian:

Celycene is a good second yozi, but since I'd like to give you another option I am going to throw out Malfeas. An exiled Perfect is as much the "fallen King" as Malfeas. He is a despot though a benevolent one

Yes, i can perfectly see the Perfect with the Malfeas theme. What i can not see is the Perfect with a lot of charms to destroy almost everything or with the perfect defense of Malfeas. Also i dont see the perfect with an exosqueleton. I like their similarities in thematic, like exiled rulers, but i dont know if the charmset of Malfeas is the best choice for the Perfect i have i mind, which is more like Palpatine and Dr. Doom put togheter.

EzekielReigns:

I'd probably change his Urge to "To assure peace and order in Creation, all rights and freedoms must be suppressed."

Yup, this is a good one too. Maybe the Perfect realize that the half-freedom he gives to her citizens was not enough to ensure total peace and order...and that to save Creation from the Deathlords, the Fair Folk, the Alchemicals and the Realm he must also end every expression of free will.

The real question is how angry is the perfect?  If he blames his own failures for his loss, then the Endless Desert.  If he is seething with rage and blames those around him, Malfeas.  Is he going to slowly plan his return to power?  Or his he going to go on a rampage, punishing those who "betrayed him".  Will he recruit a secret Yozi cult or a terrible Infernal army?  Have his favored Yozi fit his mood.  While he seems to be more of a planner, being exiled to the desert after hundreds of years of being served by an unquestioning kingdom is enough to change his Motivation.  He may become the ruthless, cruel tyrant that he never was before.  With the way you describe him, the Endless Desert makes more sense.

Pyrrhic Victory:

If he blames his own failures for his loss, then the Endless Desert. 

Probably this. He will realize that maybe his own flaws like ruler had result in his defeat. Also he will hate the Exats, for usurping his power. He is 120% sure that he is a better ruler than any Exalt in Creation.

Pyrrhic Victory:

If he is seething with rage and blames those around him, Malfeas.

Definetly, not. I think the Perfect is, even exiled and kicked, more mental than physical. He will found some logical approach to solve this problem.

Pyrrhic Victory:

Have his favored Yozi fit his mood.  While he seems to be more of a planner, being exiled to the desert after hundreds of years of being served by an unquestioning kingdom is enough to change his Motivation.  He may become the ruthless, cruel tyrant that he never was before.

Yes, i'm sure his methods are going to be less flexibles and he will not tolerate any failure in his subordinates. He willl probably convert tribes of the South into his command...to make an strike to Paragon and recover it.

Maese Mateo:

Yes, i'm sure his methods are going to be less flexibles and he will not tolerate any failure in his subordinates. He willl probably convert tribes of the South into his command...to make an strike to Paragon and recover it.

Without the Orb, he was not able to reward his subjects only punish them.  If he examines his failures, perhaps his focus on punishment will seem to be a mistake.  Verdant Emptiness Endowment, Bestowal of Accursed Fortune and Scoured Perfection of Form are some of the Charms he should pick up.  A tribe which has always been victimized by it's neighbours and it's members thrown into shackles, will suddenly receive the troops they need to defend themselves.  An aging noble woman who wishes she was beautiful again, will receive her wish.  Of course, the bill will come.  The Perfect (or is it Ex-Perfect) can form his Yozi cult, but have valuable allies who will protect it.  He can be a secret patron behind many groups which only the most brilliant or paranoid of characters can link together.  He rose to power before as the mortal possessing a sceptre of tremendous power, but it was only a matter of time before he was overthrown and his sceptre was stolen.  He may not want to reveal himself until he knows he is unstoppable.  I'm not saying that the characters won't know, but let them discover it eventually.  You don't want them to send the Perfect into the desert to die and then next session, "Hey the Perfect's back and he has glowing green eyes!  I guess he's an Infernal Exalt now, let's beat him to death with the sceptre we stole from him."  It would be best if they didn't even suspect the Perfect.  Rather, they think they've moved on to a new enemy.  Over time, hints are laid that he has made a deal with Infernal powers.  Eventually, there's the reveal, preferably when the Perfect has the circle over a barrel.

Pyrrhic Victory:

Without the Orb, he was not able to reward his subjects only punish them.  If he examines his failures, perhaps his focus on punishment will seem to be a mistake.  Verdant Emptiness Endowment, Bestowal of Accursed Fortune and Scoured Perfection of Form are some of the Charms he should pick up.  A tribe which has always been victimized by it's neighbours and it's members thrown into shackles, will suddenly receive the troops they need to defend themselves.  An aging noble woman who wishes she was beautiful again, will receive her wish.  Of course, the bill will come.  The Perfect (or is it Ex-Perfect) can form his Yozi cult, but have valuable allies who will protect it.  He can be a secret patron behind many groups which only the most brilliant or paranoid of characters can link together.  He rose to power before as the mortal possessing a sceptre of tremendous power, but it was only a matter of time before he was overthrown and his sceptre was stolen.  He may not want to reveal himself until he knows he is unstoppable.

Excellent fluff, I love it, and i think i'm going to steal it and use it in my game. ^_^

Pyrrhic Victory:

I'm not saying that the characters won't know, but let them discover it eventually.  You don't want them to send the Perfect into the desert to die and then next session, "Hey the Perfect's back and he has glowing green eyes!  I guess he's an Infernal Exalt now, let's beat him to death with the sceptre we stole from him."  It would be best if they didn't even suspect the Perfect.  Rather, they think they've moved on to a new enemy.  Over time, hints are laid that he has made a deal with Infernal powers.  Eventually, there's the reveal, preferably when the Perfect has the circle over a barrel.

In my game, the PCs have nothing to do with the exile of the Perfect. They just went to the South last session and listen rumours about that the Perfect was defeated and that a Anathema is now ruling Paragon using the Scepter (my players are solars, so they will eventually go to Paragon to speak to the new ruler and make some kind of alliance).