Vampire: The Requiem

Re: Wicked Dead info

Don Strudel — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:14:33 GMT

Zombiewulf2:
You can make the game yours, whatever you want it to be. Why do you need someone to TELL you the answers, when in the end it should only matter case by case. In other words, each game should be different.

Nevermind. I just take the view that everything is canon and leave it at that. Makes things simpler.

Re: Wicked Dead info

Primalflame — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:26:30 GMT

Well, all myths are true if your storyteller says so...

Re: Wicked Dead info

Zombiewulf2 — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:43:45 GMT

Don Strudel:
Zombiewulf2:
That's what I meant, we don't need a definite truth, we just need more optional rules like Mythologies.
You take this "toolbox thing" way too seriously. The various rules in Mythologies can all be used in the same chronicle with little to no adjustment. All myths are true, big deals.

I have no idea what you meant by this. I am using Serpent Kin rules, Sin eater, and Blood Gods. I am using them to enhance how I want the Vampire Origin to be.

And I don't understand what you don't like about the

Don Strudel:
"toolbox thing"

. You can make the game yours, whatever you want it to be. Why do you need someone to TELL you the answers, when in the end it should only matter case by case. In other words, each game should be different.

I am even using the concept of "Sons of Satan" from Blasphemies.

I like making the game mine. I don't want to controled by some "Week of Nightmares" or "Time of Thin Blood" or "Time of Judgment."

Re: Wicked Dead info

Primalflame — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:07:07 GMT

This way of conducting the game is under the definition of the Toolbox, and not under the definition of metaplot.

Metaplot appears when the entire World of Darkness is affected by some phenomenon within one book. So, the appearing of Striges in RfR, the Clanbooks and Wicked Dead is not metaplot, just a minorquasi plot that doest not have the status of canon, lets say, an element that was explored by some sourcebooks. Metaplot is the exactly inverse: thats a plot conduncting the gameline releases. Also, the facts of the metaplot usually transcend their home gameline into other games, making harder to understand what happened with majos template A without the major template B obscure sourcebook.

So, picking what one thinks is cool is not metaplot, but toolbox.

Re: Wicked Dead info

Kamatej — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:49:41 GMT

isn't it possible to use the books as a toolbox without giving up on the metaplot or canon? I just wonder why the emphasis on it being "a toolbox". Don't we all just pick what we like most and incorporate that in our sessions? Kind of like giving a man a fork with a note - you DO NOT have to put it in your eyeball... Or do I just need my sugar break?

Re: Wicked Dead info

Primalflame — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:31:52 GMT

What else can I say? Theres no World of Darkness without the Toolbox Approach.

Re: Wicked Dead info

Ich — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:44:25 GMT

Gods, I hope not.

I was attempting to use sarcasm to point out how ridiculous the idea was.

Re: Wicked Dead info

Amperglyph — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:13:25 GMT

Don Strudel:
You take this "toolbox thing" way too seriously.

Ich:
I haven't finished my Toolbox Manifesto yet, but I am ready to kill for the Toolbox.

Anyone else think it's only a matter of time before the forum erupts into the great flame War of the Toolbox?

Though, we've probably already had at least one already.

Re: Wicked Dead info

Ich — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:31:18 GMT

Don Strudel:
You take this "toolbox thing" way too seriously.

I haven't finished my Toolbox Manifesto yet, but I am ready to kill for the Toolbox.

Right.

Re: Wicked Dead info

Primalflame — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:59:10 GMT

How not ro take it seriouly? It defined this new setting approach.

Re: Wicked Dead info

Don Strudel — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:51:25 GMT

Zombiewulf2:
That's what I meant, we don't need a definite truth, we just need more optional rules like Mythologies.

You take this "toolbox thing" way too seriously. The various rules in Mythologies can all be used in the same chronicle with little to no adjustment. All myths are true, big deals.

Re: Wicked Dead info

Zombiewulf2 — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:56:24 GMT

SunlessNick:
Well, I sure want it. And I love Mythologies.

That's what I meant, we don't need a definite truth, we just need more optional rules like Mythologies.

Re: Wicked Dead info

SunlessNick — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:33:40 GMT

Well, I sure want it. And I love Mythologies.

Re: Wicked Dead info

Zombiewulf2 — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:42:00 GMT

Kamatej:
and when does this pearl come out?

Do we NEED a Pearl? Look at Mythologies.

Re: Wicked Dead info

tetsuo — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:12:22 GMT

Wood,

Is wicked dead slated for a early or late july release?