Exalted

Re: How to turn DnD players into Exaltamaniacs

Mostlyawake — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:23:26 GMT

So, basically, Chuck Norris is the last free Primordial? You know, two got away, one came back later and tried to kill everything, one is still on the loose somewhere. He went into Elsewhere and came out in American film and television.

That explains so much...

Re: How to turn DnD players into Exaltamaniacs

Psychotropic — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:32:58 GMT

In the beginning, there was Time Not. In this perfectly finite infinite point in space and time, the Shinma Advaita Iraivan realized that there were two states of being: Chuck Norris and Not Chuck Norris.

Re: How to turn DnD players into Exaltamaniacs

Maese Mateo — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:37:10 GMT

SoulsteelSeverance:
Maese Mateo:
You are soooo wrong. He invent Zeal...and that just one of his less powerfull charms. lol

Dammit, you made me do it...

hahahaha ^_^

Re: How to turn DnD players into Exaltamaniacs

SoulsteelSeverance — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:09:58 GMT

Maese Mateo:
You are soooo wrong. He invent Zeal...and that just one of his less powerfull charms. lol

Dammit, you made me do it...

Chuck Norris' beard grants him perfect defense forever.

Chuck Norris banged the Lover Clad in the Raiment of Tears long before the Usurpation. She was a virgin, lesbian, and was also fat.

Chuck Norris cut a Dragon Line to use as floss.

Chuck Norris is the true wielder of the Sword of Creation. Now you know why the Empress had 11 children.

Chuck Norris scratches his ass with a certain Deathlord's right arm.

Chuck Norris never showers during Calibration.

Chuck Norris once pissed in the Western Ocean. He came back with the exact depth.

Chuck Norris has a bottle of Whiskey in Lytek's cabinet.

Chuck Norris' Anima Banner is a middle finger on fire.

Chuck Norris' Caste Mark is an American Flag and a cowboy hat.

Chuck Norris remembers every Sidereal he ever met.

Chuck Norris Exalted on the toilet, where he shit out a wild cougar and beat it to death with his pants around his ankle.

Someone once laughed at Chuck Norris when he said he'd hit them so hard their kids would be born with black eyes. Now you know where Djali come from.

Sorry, guys... I had to.

Re: How to turn DnD players into Exaltamaniacs

Maese Mateo — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:33:42 GMT

Mostlyawake:

Just because, you know, Chuck Norris might be the baddest ass in our world, but he doesn't have *charms*.

You are soooo wrong. He invent Zeal...and that just one of his less powerfull charms. lol

Re: How to turn DnD players into Exaltamaniacs

Mostlyawake — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:24:34 GMT

Maese Mateo:
Psychotropic:
the theoretical love child of Bruce Lee and Jesus Christ.

Chuck Norris?

I like to give the name "Chuck Norris" to at least one heroic mortal martial artist every campaign, just so we can kill him mercilessly.

Sometimes, it ends up being the generic name for IO members.

"3 chuck norrises riding t-rexes (tyrant lizards)? Dude, I might actually have to use my Form charm this fight... No, the rest of you, keep playing poker. I got this."

Just because, you know, Chuck Norris might be the baddest ass in our world, but he doesn't have *charms*.

Re: How to turn DnD players into Exaltamaniacs

Maese Mateo — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:16:10 GMT

mercucio:
Mendrian:
Not entirely accurate. It is possible to make a Solar "healer" using errata'd Medicine Charms, but it's pretty costly for what it is.

Or you can invest a measly 3 Charms into the Victorious Art of Concession CMA and get efficient healing :).

Yes, that's also an option.

But VAoC charm does not only heal 1 health level per use of the charm?

Re: How to turn DnD players into Exaltamaniacs

mercucio — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:03:22 GMT

Mendrian:
Not entirely accurate. It is possible to make a Solar "healer" using errata'd Medicine Charms, but it's pretty costly for what it is.

Or you can invest a measly 3 Charms into the Victorious Art of Concession CMA and get efficient healing :).

Re: How to turn DnD players into Exaltamaniacs

Mendrian — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:21:27 GMT

Adamant Siaka:
This deserves special mention. First, Twilights kill the wizard stereotype as a matter of course by not requiring you to know sorcery - anyone with sufficient drive to change the world with learning leads to attracting an Exaltation of that Caste. Secondly, anyone who does heal is going to do so very slowly, unless they happen to be a Lunar using regeneraiton Charms. That's a major departure from D&D, and is a wonderful time to tell the players that their motes, rather than health levels, are more akin to HP.

Not entirely accurate. It is possible to make a Solar "healer" using errata'd Medicine Charms, but it's pretty costly for what it is. There certainly is no "healing class" in the game, though, which I think quickly throws such players for a loop. "What do you mean I can't just carry around a bunch of healing potions" is a common reaction when I introduce new players.

Re: How to turn DnD players into Exaltamaniacs

Psychotropic — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:12:45 GMT

Maese Mateo:
Chuck Norris?

Is just a funny internet meme.

Oh and excuse me, Tikor, I should have made it clear those points were in no particular order.

Re: How to turn DnD players into Exaltamaniacs

Tikor — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:41:23 GMT

Psychotropic:
7. Tell them to check out 'Exalted's Order of the Stick' Keychain of Creation at http://keychain.patternspider.net/ and see if they dig it.

I would bump this one up higher on the list. It's a very easy way to have people shown the differences in Exalted instead of being told about them (or getting them to read the core book, which, inexplicably, some people find a chore).

Re: How to turn DnD players into Exaltamaniacs

Maat — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:51:26 GMT

Having converted quite a few D&D players over to Exalted, I find one of the most attractive aspects of Exalted for them is how malleable the scene is when it comes to the action. D&D players are so entrenched in their 10 ft. x 10 ft. stone corridors it can be quite a surprise when they suddenly find that they can put a chandalier right in the middle of it just by saying so. Most times that's what gets them hooked; it gives them more comraderie with the ST, whereas in D&D, the relationship with the DM is more adversarial.

On the opposite side of the coin, most D&D players have a hard time realizing just how powerful they truly are in Exalted. They're used to being afraid of kobolds and goblins and carefully rationing their HPs; you kinda have to prod them to wade into the middle of a group of extras and commence hostilities. But once they discover that they can make that group of extras into hamburger with a couple of stunts, they get into it.

Re: How to turn DnD players into Exaltamaniacs

Maese Mateo — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:59:02 GMT

Psychotropic:
the theoretical love child of Bruce Lee and Jesus Christ.

Chuck Norris?

Re: How to turn DnD players into Exaltamaniacs

Psychotropic — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:36:51 GMT

The major selling points for me between the two systems are:

1. Everyone gets to kick ass and look cool doing it. Yeah, there's 'cleric/healer', 'fighter', 'rogue', 'wizard', etc. analogs but at no point is the 'fighter' going to feel useless after 6th level or the '1st level wizard' going to run out of spells and sit around picking his nose for hours. If they play 4e, point out how every character can do more than repeat the same 4 moves every single fight.

2. Kicking ass is less about dice rolls and more about looking cool. Explain how the stunting system works then point out how cool it is that you can actually DO the stunts from your favorite action flicks and get a bonus on the roll for it rather than 'ok, roll a d20... you miss'. Or hit and roll your piddling 1d8 while the wizard needs to grow three extra hands to hold his damage dice.

3. Yes, Creation has an 'Elminster', several 'Darth Vaders' and a bunch of other signature characters. The difference is: You get to kick their asses because the setting itself dictates that your characters are more awesome than the theoretical love child of Bruce Lee and Jesus Christ.

4. Sick of alignment getting in the way of your character? Screw black and white morality. Creation is painted in shades of gray and you get to repaint it whatever colour you want.

5. Three words: Social Combat System. Yes, the 'bard' might just be more effective than killing everything for once!

6. Game balance shmame balance. If you're not surfing on nuclear missiles at the head of an army of giant robots while dueling a goth loli with a giant scythe, ur doin' it wrong! Lighten up and have some FUN!

7. Tell them to check out 'Exalted's Order of the Stick' Keychain of Creation at http://keychain.patternspider.net/ and see if they dig it.

Re: How to turn DnD players into Exaltamaniacs

SoulsteelSeverance — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:26:55 GMT

SibeliusVassal:
The Ubergamer in me just screamed a violent as hell scream. I just feel the need to correct this bass ackward statement. You are the template wizard if and only if you choose to be. You can create a specialist that uses only ice based spells or fire, lightning, force, acid or pretty much any combo you can think of. Saying that there is no difference between any character of the same class is like saying all fighters use swords and all barbarians use axes or all bards use the harp. All of those are seriously false and to even say that they are is an affront to the grandfather of all modern RPGs and a disgrace to all gamers that actually know anything about the systems that they play.

Yeah, that really sets them apart. The spells they use. Right.

I like how you use the term "Grandfather". Grandfathers usually end up shitting themselves and dying in a home.

I think the point that he was trying to make is that "A Wizard is a Wizard, but Exalted says you can be a martial artist and a wizard and an archer from the start". In D&D, yeah... you can make yourself a multiclass character, but try to make a fighter/assassin. Also, the abilities that some of the classes get are often worthless. Exalted offers you the chance to pick and choose most of your traits from the start, without worrying about meeting criteria multiple levels later.