Sparketh:That is an awesome weapon (and description), but is a bit undervalued. Increased ammo: 1 Summon invisible campfire at no cost: 2-3 (unless this is the manifestation of a fire boon) Fire Purview: 1 How much damage does the heat do to those who touch it?
Ale Golem:Simply increasing the ammo isn't as good as unlimited ammunition so I don't think it should require a relic dot. It's like saying a berreta with an extended clip can only be created by gods. I meant to add a legend cost to the power after I had allowed it to burn flesh and set combustables on fire, must have forgot to edit it in. I think I'll set the burn damage at a simple 1L and to strike in combat is the same as using an improvised weapon.
Sparketh: Ale Golem:Simply increasing the ammo isn't as good as unlimited ammunition so I don't think it should require a relic dot. It's like saying a berreta with an extended clip can only be created by gods. I meant to add a legend cost to the power after I had allowed it to burn flesh and set combustables on fire, must have forgot to edit it in. I think I'll set the burn damage at a simple 1L and to strike in combat is the same as using an improvised weapon.It may not be as good as infinite ammuition, but it is a dramatic increase and needs to be accounted for somewhere. Perhaps you just need another very minor benefit that with your increased ammunition adds up to 1
Ale Golem:Autofire is in Scion: Hero on page 199.
Lambach:They do if you use the perception houserule, which I believe the OP is using. They actually become the most munchkinable for most of the game, especially the part most people play. They only lose out when agg dmg starts becoming "important".
Ale Golem:I never stated I'm using any houserules. In fact I believe I stated I think guns are perfect the way they're written.
Gin Yama Uwa 000 (1 purview, 1 dot unique power, 1 dot unique power)
This pair of pearl handled silver semi automatic M1911's has delicate engravings symbolizing the bitter winter winds that blow through the mountains of Japan. The ammunition for the weapons is clearly visible through precise cuts in the pistol grips with only two small slanted perpendicular bridges between the two sides of the handle to form more than just a frame for the ammunition. A worthy scion of the Amatsukami can readily communicate with the twin spirits of the weapons who will each readily offer their opinion on battle strategy weather the scion wants to hear it or not. Ketatamashii Tenka will insist on a subtle approach with a focus on staying well back from the thick of combat while Rinrintaru Hi has a great love of up close brutal combat. If the scion acquiesces to his his strategy of attack Rinrintaru Hi will form a set of razor sharp quarter moon blades out of ice underneath the barrel of the weapon. These blades act as a matched set of machetes and do not impede the function of the weapons as firearms. Ketatamashii Tenka has a love of beautiful things and delights in turning ordinary bullets into streaks of pure silver upon her whim. Gin Yama Uwa uses the beretta template and allows access to the Frost purview. They come with a set of six magazines that look exceedingly long for the standard sized firearms, a scion will quickly realize that the magazine chamber is much larger that it appears and the double long magazine fits quite snugly with a satisfying click once it's slammed home.
Lambach:I agree, but I hate guns, as someone who likes guns and wants to make relics out of them; how can you think they are perfect?
Birdshot 000 (1 purview, 2 dot unique)
Birdshot is two matched sets of thee dual shot derringers, each is matte black with a wooden grip. Burned into the wood of each handle is an amazingly small and intricate picture of a birds skull. Shango commissioned the pistols from Ogoun as he knew no other as skilled in metal as the very same who had made his hammer so many centuries ago. He then set about catching, sacrificing and stuffing half a dozen large pigeons. Shango carved the wood handles himself, staining the wood with the blood of the birds, and poured his magic into the scorched images he painstakingly burned into them, thereby binding the spirits and bodies of the birds to the weapons. Shango blessed the derringers with a stern prayer as Ogoun put the final pieces together. The set now awaits his daughter to become old enough to claim her birthrights and become the bandit he has raised her as. The set of six functions essentially uses the template for a pair of peacemakers and allows access to the Justice purview. Shango knows the value of communication between ones allies and each pistol can be transformed into a pigeon that will listen and take a message or small item, such as a key or rolled up piece of letter paper, to any designated person the scion instructs as long as they are on the same plane of existence. Upon close inspection the bird are very obviously taxidermy dummies that have been reanimated into a zombie semblance of their former selves. When speaking their message they will do so in a raspy inhuman whisper and can take a short message back to their master but can not form messages of their own. Each derringer can be transformed into one bird with the expenditure of one legend, that's six seperate birds with the expenditure of six legend, and while it is in this form the scion does not have access to that weapon. If a bird is destroyed it's companion weapon is gone as well unless the corpse can be retrieved, in which case a simple ritual involving more fresh avian blood will restore it to full unlife. Treat a pigeon as a small zombie with no attacks but due to the magic powering them they can fly at the speeds of up to mach one.