yesferatu:Sneak and bleeds have been an issue since 1994.
yesferatu:I'm looking for a solution other than simply including more dominate in more decks.
yesferatu:I am looking for something we have never seen, a combat bounce.
yesferatu:I think you may be focusing a bit too much on the sneak and bleed aspect of the post. I was trying to combat the "bleed sink" phenomenon that decks/clans without Auspex or Dominate run into.
yesferatu:Although I appreciate your input, I was under the impression that this was a public forum for the purpose of discussing this kind of thing.
yesferatu:I guess there's no love for the combat bounce.
yesferatu:It's a strike, which one clan can use.
Glaswanderer:So, LSJ doesn't take submissions. Is that pretty much it?
Gargoylee:Please don't post incorrect information. There are 2 clans with vampires with Superior Valeren. Furthermore: There are 2 other clans with vampires with inferior Valeren that could use a Trifle, Agent of Power, to use the bounce. Tremere Antribu can use Infernal Pact. Any 1 capacity vampire can use Inceptor. Any vampire that ashes a Red List minion can use Trophy: Discipline.