nWoD player here: can you sell me on oWoD?

Thebian:

[Sorry Zeev - as per Mr. Gone's request, I'm done.  No hard feelings :).]

Like I said, I thought it was getting alittle heated, so I thought if it could be toned down abit...that'd be good. Just so it didn't get out of hand. I probably could have worded my mod post alittle differently. Hope you didn't think I was being a dick.

I just know this can be a pretty heated topic.

JimB:

I wonder if the original poster is still reading this thread.  It just occurred to me that no one really seems to be trying to sell anyone on the OWoD; it's more like a poll of opinions at this point.

Oh...crap. Yea...

Well, its hard to sell someone on the old stuff if they never played it.

It'd be like if someone only owned a Blu-Ray player and asked be sold on a DVD player.

Mr Gone:

Thebian:

[Sorry Zeev - as per Mr. Gone's request, I'm done.  No hard feelings :).]

Like I said, I thought it was getting alittle heated, so I thought if it could be toned down abit...that'd be good. Just so it didn't get out of hand. I probably could have worded my mod post alittle differently. Hope you didn't think I was being a dick.

I just know this can be a pretty heated topic.

Nah, it's cool :-).  I'd said all I needed to say and it's clear that the conversation wasn't going to go anywhere.  You stepped in at just the right time I think.  So no worries - you were bang on target as usual :-)

Ok....good.

It was fresh at the time where most role-playing games were not "story" based.

Let me expand on that point, Old World Of Darkness help plaved the character in the story, the world, and the setting.  Very little were you asked to think about your character.  Who were they?  How did they end up here in the "now"?  In short a Prelude.

It also seemed to me, at least, the here was the begining of the character driven story.

Character grow was more organic, you became more experienced at thing you did or went out of your way to learn.

Each Old World Of Darkness was it's own game and had very little to do with other games.

Each game had a rich setting that could be used "right out of the box".  Each game supplement advanced the setting/story.

There was a sense of "epicness" (if that is even a word).  Each game had an end that was rumoured to be a possibility - and when White Wolf decided to move on, Time of Judgement was released that ended all the games as the rumours turned out to be truths.

Mortals were canon fodder.

The powers that each supernatural had or could get were epic too.

In many cases the game really wasn't about horror - though you could play that up - but about being part of something much bigger and each new book revelaed how deep the rabbit hole went.

You were not guessing at what was going to happen or why it was happening - you were given it.  The fun came from trying to use it for your own group.

The dice mechanics drew things out giving over the top action that could last all night. The chance for "Botches" (really bad failures) happened more often also made for some liveliness at the table as critical failures put characters in worse situations than they were moments ago - ah, good time, good times.

Could you do cross overs? Yes but it did require a little work.

Were you stuck to the story? No, you didn't have to follow the story that the books were describing.

Do you have to end it because they killed off the game line?  No, just don't expect any new official books and other support for the game lines.

On the plus side most of the books can be found dirt cheap, heck I practically gave most of mine away.

If you are looking for over the top fun and exictement as well as exploring the roots of the World of Darkness, then by all means track down the old books or go to DriveThru to get them.

Darck Child:

Very little were you asked to think about your character.  Who were they?  How did they end up here in the "now"?  In short a Prelude.

Are you joking ? Preludes are a central point in character creation, and you are in fact asked quite extensive questions about your character in the creation section of pretty much all of the core books.

Darck Child:

You were not guessing at what was going to happen or why it was happening - you were given it.  The fun came from trying to use it for your own group.

As the ST, yes. And that's a good thing. As a player no, which is also a good thing. At least if your ST was worth the food you put into him to keep him going.

Hod:

Are you joking ? Preludes are a central point in character creation, and you are in fact asked quite extensive questions about your character in the creation section of pretty much all of the core books.

I was referring to the other games at the time. Not White Wolf.

Hod:

As the ST, yes. And that's a good thing. As a player no, which is also a good thing. At least if your ST was worth the food you put into him to keep him going.

In general I agree with you.

HelterSkelter:

you said "reviled" instead of "reveiled"

I think that's what he meant :-)

It was just a typo.

Did not hit the e the second time.

Sorry about that.

[English nerd mode]
Actually, HelterSkelter is wrong too, Blood.  The word does not have an I in it.  It's spelled "revealed".
[/English nerd mode]

JimB:

[English nerd mode]
Actually, HelterSkelter is wrong too, Blood.  The word does not have an I in it.  It's spelled "revealed".
[/English nerd mode]

OMFG people.  I’m dyslexic.  I can not spell very well.  Can we get on the topic of the string and not my learning disorder please.

Damn.

Why in the hell are we sooo intrested in the spelling and word use on a post.  Just look at this string alone and notice all the miss-spelled words that even i can see.

Darck Child:

Hod:

Are you joking ? Preludes are a central point in character creation, and you are in fact asked quite extensive questions about your character in the creation section of pretty much all of the core books.

I was referring to the other games at the time. Not White Wolf.

Ah, I see. In that case I agree completely.

BloodKnarledFur:

OMFG people.  I’m dyslexic.  I cannot spell very well.  Can we get on the topic of the string and not my learning disability, please.

Okay, but you know, no one was talking about dyslexia until you brought it up.  We were just talking about spelling.

BloodKnarledFur:

Why in the hell are we sooo interested in the spelling and word use on a post?

Since you asked, I'll respond that we're so interested because spelling is the only way to tell which words you're trying to use, and the words you're trying to use are the only way to figure out what you mean, which point I think was very well illustrated by the revealed/reviled mistake.  I'm sorry if it's hard on you, but them's the breaks when you're communicating through a purely textual medium.

The worst of it can be solved by running a spellcheck, if your browser has that, you know.

JimB:

BloodKnarledFur:

OMFG people.  I’m dyslexic.  I cannot spell very well.  Can we get on the topic of the string and not my learning disability, please.

Okay, but you know, no one was talking about dyslexia until you brought it up.  We were just talking about spelling.

 

BloodKnarledFur:

Why in the hell are we sooo interested in the spelling and word use on a post?

Since you asked, I'll respond that we're so interested because spelling is the only way to tell which words you're trying to use, and the words you're trying to use are the only way to figure out what you mean, which point I think was very well illustrated by the revealed/reviled mistake.  I'm sorry if it's hard on you, but them's the breaks when you're communicating through a purely textual medium.

 

The worst of it can be solved by running a spellcheck, if your browser has that, you know.

Really?  I did not know there was such a thing as spell check. (Sarcasem)

I am not upset, nor do I feel that I was or am being attacked.  I was responding to the 5 or 10 posts that were about my one miss word use.

I know that text is the way we talk here, I am not stupid.

I was just trying to figure out why there was sooo much intrest in a misspelling, it's not like I was the first or the only one to do that here, or even in this string.

BloodKnarledFur:

I was just trying to figure out why there was sooo much interest in a misspelling, it's not like I was the first or the only one to do that here, or even in this string.

I'm guessing it's because the misspelling you used created a word that meant something almost but not quite the opposite of what you meant, which people found funny.  And then people tried to correct you, but they were also wrong, which I found funny.

Back on subject, I find old mage far more interest a world than new mage, to enure that the discussion stays polite I will simply state that I don't find anything in the new mage fluff particulary interesting.

I'm glad to see somebody else noticed the large amount of bloodlines paradox mrGone, but on the bright side they do make it very easy to transfer the mechanics of reqiem over to Masquerade setting by copy and pasting diciplines.