The ICC announcement

(see the front home page)

What does it mean?

What are the consequences for people who are part of the Camarilla?

What about the many groups who are not in any way affiliated with the Camarilla?

(This is kind of a me bringing the annoucement to your attention and raising it as a topic of discussion thread.)

Christian A:

(see the front home page)

I think this is a good thing. Or maybe I am hoping so hard that I am deluding myself into thinking this is a good thing. Who knows?

I know a lot of local gamers who are going to be excited to hear that the OWoD is coming back (as an option, of course). Most of them have said they would go back if the OWoD emerged once again so for folks like that this is very good news.

The website is getting revamped. Excellent news!

The stats on brick and mortar stores was strartling, even frightening. I don't know what I would do without my FLGS. However, it is nice to hear that White Wolf is planning for their survival in the future. I just don't know how I feel about an electronic catalogue of books. I know this is the way of the future and all but I love the smell and feel of books in my hands. I love the space they take up on my shelves. I love collecting books. I love PDFs too, they are very handy but if I had my way I would want both. I am even happy to pay for both (which I have done numerous times now).

It will be interesting to see how things pan out.

WoD MMO... Works continues but they have the right people on the job and their heads are in the right place I think. I look forward to it.

Just my thoughts...

Storyteller:

I know a lot of local gamers who are going to be excited to hear that the OWoD is coming back (as an option, of course). Most of them have said they would go back if the OWoD emerged once again so for folks like that this is very good news.

Watch your wording there or else we are going to have about a dozen posts in the next 3 months saying "I heard the OWOD is coming back."

The news says something to the effect: "We recognize that, that means a some of you are going to go back to the OWOD" not that that OWOD is coming back.

Honestly I've played in the Camarilla before and while it was always a noble experiment, it was still just an experiment that had become full of a lot of Elitists that felt they knew better than everyone.  It will be interesting to see where they go now that they've been given just enough rope to hang themselves.

You are right. The OWoD is not coming back but the opportunity to play what you want is the key. Thank you for clarifying.

Deimos_Masque:

Honestly I've played in the Camarilla before and while it was always a noble experiment, it was still just an experiment that had become full of a lot of Elitists that felt they knew better than everyone.  It will be interesting to see where they go now that they've been given just enough rope to hang themselves.

See, that's one of the reasons why I never joined the Cam. I don't see the need for my elitism to reach out and touch other peoples' games. No, really. I've got my way of doing things, in terms of setting and house rules, and I like being able to do that without outside interference or my own games infringing on other peoples'.

Christian A:

What about the many groups who are not in any way affiliated with the Camarilla?

Not 1 thing, the ICC is the International Camarilla Conclave. so its all about the fan club.

its a shame there is no cam uk any more, because i could see some of these changes being beneficial to the organization as a whole.

but then, that is just me.

The tools they are building are going to be available to any player, not just the members of the Cam.

Storyteller:

The tools they are building are going to be available to any player, not just the members of the Cam.

I just hope the tools are Mac friendly. Tired of all the Mac hate by game developers

Pholtus:

I just hope the tools are Mac friendly. Tired of all the Mac hate by game developers

I second this statement.

It's not Mac hate so much as it is that Mac takes entirely different set of coding to program for and covers only a small share of the home computing business.

Deimos_Masque:

It's not Mac hate so much as it is that Mac takes entirely different set of coding to program for and covers only a small share of the home computing business.

True enough. The easy way to make it work for both systems is to make it web based.

Storyteller:

The website is getting revamped. Excellent news!

I agree.

I also liked the bit about easing up on the rules for fan sites.

Most definitely. :)