Things that made you giggle while reading Glories

Boogaleeboo:

Personally I'd think it's an outright stupid idea because one of the things that keeps him balanced is the vast majority of his power has an off switch, and turning around and going "Congrats, you managed to shut down his nearly total invulnerability and infinite damage attacks! Of course he is still one of the most powerful beings that ever existed and he knows SMA, so you are probably still fucked. Still, great effort!" is the greatest anti-climax ever......but I also don't think giving the ability to learn it is unworkable. I'd just have to work it more than what is there now, and I don't know that it adds a lot.

Yep. Instead, he's still one of the most powerful beings that ever existed and he knows six CMAs, five of which are among the most powerful ever developed and, incidentally, they give him a comprehensive Celestial defensive suite. Have fun!

Nephilpal:

What precisely would SMA offer him that would matter to him or be useful to him?

I would be horrified if Ingnis Divine either practiced or was targeted with Draw Forth One Shard / Draw Forth Every Shard, or if someone somehow managed to successfully use the Evocation From the Mirror SCS spell on him for that matter.

Yep. Instead, he's still one of the most powerful beings that ever existed and he knows six CMAs, five of which are among the most powerful ever developed and, incidentally, they give him a comprehensive Celestial defensive suite. Have fun!

Those are simply really good to have, and make him an epic fight. SMA range from "Bullshit!" insane soul punching brilliance to the more out of character "Oh, bullshit." unbalanced monstrosities. And they become very, very good in the hands of beings with more Essence and Willpower to throw around than Sidereals. Taking away a guy's ultra power to show that he simply has a slightly less impressive universe pantsing ultra power in the wings is bad form.....unless you have some multiple thousands of XP rules lawyering monsters who simply compose the greatest and most efficient Combos to do every action while finding the most economical Artifacts to apply to any situation as a reflex action.

In which case TUS is officially riding into battle on top of Luna with some sort of chain weapon composed of the Maidens while practicing the hereto unknown Extra Secret Double Primordial Martial Arts that he just invented on the spot, because that would buy me maybe five seconds before they win. Because you've just given him stats, and thus there is some bastard out there who knows how to kill him in five moves.

Holden:

Yep. Instead, he's still one of the most powerful beings that ever existed and he knows six CMAs, five of which are among the most powerful ever developed and, incidentally, they give him a comprehensive Celestial defensive suite. Have fun!

Hmm, how exactly does his Virtue suppression interact with his usage of Virtue Styles?  If he suppresses his Temperence, does he loose access to Untouchable Purpose and the rest of Meditative Discussion? I suppose he still has access to Divine Subordination (All) so it simply makes his perfect parry cost 3 more motes (since he declines to dodge); huh, those still have Flaws of Invulnerability but it is unlikely he has suppressed all Four virtues, or he could just be hax and say "My flaw is like Duck Fates, and by the way i always have more successes then I need."

Also, what is his "weak" MA style?

Heh here is a nasty thought: Ignis Divine with All-Consuing God-Monster Style, with the Stance activated, and Adaita Harmony as part of his selection benefits. Of course, his vice is defined as: Games of Divinity.

RedMageBill:

Holden:

Yep. Instead, he's still one of the most powerful beings that ever existed and he knows six CMAs, five of which are among the most powerful ever developed and, incidentally, they give him a comprehensive Celestial defensive suite. Have fun!

Hmm, how exactly does his Virtue suppression interact with his usage of Virtue Styles?  If he suppresses his Temperence, does he loose access to Untouchable Purpose and the rest of Meditative Discussion? I suppose he still has access to Divine Subordination (All) so it simply makes his perfect parry cost 3 more motes (since he declines to dodge); huh, those still have Flaws of Invulnerability but it is unlikely he has suppressed all Four virtues, or he could just be hax and say "My flaw is like Duck Fates, and by the way i always have more successes then I need."

Also, what is his "weak" MA style?

His Virtue suppression doesn't interact with the Virtue styles, any more than any other character's would.

The 'weak' MA style would be Solar Hero. Which is not weak, but it also doesn't plug up any holes in his native power set.

JimB:

"The Unconquered Sun is incapable of learning any Sidereal styles, nor is he interested in doing so.  He has difficulty imagining he is missing anything important."

I don't get it. Care to parse this for those of us who surf with their brains turned off, please?

Holden:

The 'weak' MA style would be Solar Hero. Which is not weak, but it also doesn't plug up any holes in his native power set.

Yeah, I figured as much. Solar hero is a candidate for the "most killy CMA in the world" title, except that Sol is so overwhelmingly deadly that it is pretty much irrelevent to him. Even with all his 4 virtues suppressed, he attacks at Accuracy 40 / Damage 40L piercing, with a second excellency at half cost and twice the cap on top. With such an awesome spear, you don't attack bare handed, and that means he can't use a single Solar Hero charm.

On the other hand the other styles have charms that are plugging holes the size of a behemoth in His defensive array. Please remember the flurry breaker in the Uncoquered Arms style, since he had all the spirit flurry breaker removed from his powers at creation.

Center-of-All:

JimB:

"The Unconquered Sun is incapable of learning any Sidereal styles, nor is he interested in doing so.  He has difficulty imagining he is missing anything important."

I don't get it. Care to parse this for those of us who surf with their brains turned off, please?

That's simple. Ignis Divine is completely unable to learn an SMA charm. It is then mentionned that :
A) He thinks that if he can't use it, that's because it's useless. He couldn't possibly miss anything significative.
B) SMA are actually pretty useless, given how byzantine and overpriced they are

Take your pick.

Gotta say Immortal Blade Triumphant managed a smile out of me when I read it the second time.  Sure it's designed to define the Deathlords innate perfect defense ability, but the tail end of the Charm really stuck out to me.

The part about the office which takes prayers for the Unconquered Sun was pretty solidly hilarious.  I just kept laughign at things ranging from rocket cows, the entire crop circle fiasco or the giant fucking egg.  I nearly spit my coffee out on two or three instances, I must say.

And stuff.

Center-of-All:

JimB:

"The Unconquered Sun is incapable of learning any Sidereal styles, nor is he interested in doing so.  He has difficulty imagining he is missing anything important."

I don't get it. Care to parse this for those of us who surf with their brains turned off, please?

I'm not sure what you're asking.  Are you asking why I find this funny?  If that's the case, it just tickles me on the grounds that I don't especially like Sidereal Martial Arts, and am often annoyed by the obsession people on these forums seem to have with them as the be-all and end-all of power.  People seem to insist that SMA are the most powerful things going, as far as I can tell just because they're the most numerous high-Essence Charms in print.

Yet here we have the guy who literally is the be-all and end-all of power, and he disdains SMA as being more or less beneath his attention.  You could interpret this as arrogance on his part, and maybe it is, but I prefer to take it as official support of my position that just because they're high-Essence Charms doesn't make them any more powerful or useful than other Charms with comparable prerequisites.

In short, it makes me laugh because I say, "Fuck SMA," and the Unconquered Sun agrees with me.  It lends a certain weight to my opinion.

Helter Skelter:

Gotta say Immortal Blade Triumphant managed a smile out of me when I read it the second time.  Sure it's designed to define the Deathlords innate perfect defense ability, but the tail end of the Charm really stuck out to me.

"and it's worth noting that, like all sets of Mirror Charms, they are only capable of wielding the Abyssal version of this charm."

Interesting statement given their write up about knowing all Solar and Abyssal Charms.  One of those clever "not going back on anything we said earlier, just defining it a little better" moments I was pleased to see in Glories.

Indeed - i always felt they knew all their solar charms and used the knowledge to open the road to mirror effects and from that to truly Abyssal charms. But knowing - and in consequence having the capacity to serve as a valid tutor on them for overly ambitious solars - is not the same as being able to use solar charms, meaning i felt very pleased indeed with that particular statement. :P