Random Thought about Giant Scions

Lambach:

Umm.....so is odin....and freyr...and....
they have jotunblut (giants blood) for a reason.

Freyer was Vanir I thought.

Who is his mother?

unknown, rumered to be Njords sister in Scion. The genealogy page lists it as (sister)

Although its never said, most assume that it is skadi, njords wife from a deal made with the jotun.  This makes freyrs purviews(using the scion term to recognize things a god is a god "of") make a lot of sense.  He is the god of the land, between the ocean, njord, and the mountains, skadi.  This is slight academic assumption though, its never openly stated.  

Either way, he does end up marrying a giant.  Many many of the asir and vanir are giants. 

I think Ragnarok actually specifically says it is not Skadi. Freya and Freyr are from before the war ended with the Vanir. Skadi was married to him after the Vanir joined the Aesir. What we do have is that none of the Aesir know who their mother was, and a persistant rumer has it as his sister. If it were Skadi, the Aesir would probably know.

ETA: He never speaks of their mother, and none of the Aesir claim to know. Rumor puts it as his sister, and outside Scion sources, both sources I can scare up say it is his sister. Given all that on them come up before Skadi is brought into the picture and given the nature of her marriage...it seems very, very unlikly to be her, especially given the order things are discussed in Ragnarok.

ETA 2: More digging indicates Nerthus, the feminine version of Njord, his "twin sister" in certain germanic myths, while she seems unnamed in other cases. That seems to be most likely.

In Dictionary of Northern Mythology under the entry for Skadi it says that Freyr is her son. 
In the poem Skirnirsmal it also calls Freyr the son of Skadi.

regardless, Ragnarok suggests its his sister, and Ragnarok is the scion reference. Some sources say otherwise, but such is the nature of mythology. Ragnarok is not without sources either, and Ragnarok assumes the Vanir joining later rather then always having been there, which other sources are divided on. It seems clear Skadi came along later, when he was among the Aesir. The discussion of their parentage would not have occurred in his entry if Skadi had been their mother, because it would have been silly to talk about no Aesir claiming to know, and him not speaking of it...this is consistent with incest, while Thor's being the bastard son of a giant and titan outside Odin's wedlock is known, accepted, and not cared about.

Wow, you usually make yourself clearer then that. 
Yes, the authors of ragnarok made a choice between 2 options that actual mythology is divided on.  Scion can take a stand, but the mythology is there to back it up. 

Either way, without counting off the top of my head, even in the scion books at least half the aesir is part giant, which was my main point.  Their leader is giantspawn. 

Oh yea not contesting that. The majority have some giantish blood if not being giants themselves.

Baron Samedi:

Oh yea not contesting that. The majority have some giantish blood if not being giants themselves.

Which is why I like the offical Jotunblunt. They have inharited the giants blood to create Thralls out of mortals and animals. Except as Gods they can do more, by creating actual Giants out of mortals or dispeling the effects of a Giants' hold/abilties they granted a mortal. Too bad, an Aesir who creates a Giant cannot undo the effect themselves.

ABERRANT_SCION:

Too bad, an Aesir who creates a Giant cannot undo the effect themselves.

They can if they have Eitr Antivenom.

The problem with jotunblut is you dont need 10 levels of the same power. 

BlaineTog:

ABERRANT_SCION:

Too bad, an Aesir who creates a Giant cannot undo the effect themselves.

They can if they have Eitr Antivenom.

Not really. Eitr Antivenin works only on Giant Eitr, not Jotunblunt effects.

"An Aesir can purge a giant's fould influence on a mortal's body. If a God can subdue a thrall (see Scion Hero pg.285), feed a thrall a measure of his ichor and activate this boon, the God's ichor destroyes the giant's eitr. Damage done to the thrall's intelligence is repaired, though the benefits to the thrall's strength and stamina dissipate as well.
A God can use this boon only on one Thrall at a time, it has No effect on Berserks, dire beasts, or on giants."

This says to me, no effect on the previous boons from this purview. Specially the Giant power, sense it turns a mortal into a generic giant. But the mortal is now a Giant.

Lambach:

The problem with jotunblut is you dont need 10 levels of the same power. 

Which I do not mind. Each one is better than the last boon even if just a little.
It has a very narrow focus, which is nice. Kinda like Arete, is just a dice adder. Arete while more useful overall can be alot more expensive over the long haul because you have to buy it for Every Ability you wish to be excellient at. One player of mine, had a Scion of Vulcan with Arete Craft with 5 different types of Crafts. Then compained his Epic Attrubutes were so low compaired to others in the group. He had alot of Epics at 1 but that was it. The Aesir players bought up Jotunblunt had created a small army of people to fight with them and War-animals. Worked out great too. While Titanspawn was bussy dealing with the hyper-human berserks they created they went in and toasted the titanspawn in short order.
Cannon Fodder is useful in battles.

Cannon fodder should never be very useful in a battle.  Anything that the jotunblut creatures fought wouldnt be able to do dmg to the scions, so there isnt a point. 

You just compared the most versatile psp and the least versatile one and called them the same.  They are the two extremes of the psps.  Arete has the least narrow focus by far, its focus can be whatever you want it to.  Creatures that take jotunblut should rarely if ever be useful.  Anything they fight a scion should be able to one shot, at demigod this gets serious, and at god it gets ridiculous.   If you think other wise you are seriously bad at math. 

The same to  your player that got arete in 5 different crafts(i let arete apply to all crafts), it would have been infinitely better for him to just get the epics that deal with craft, the few extra dice 5 different times are completely nominal.  I love arete, but thats just bad bad math. 

Lambach:

Cannon fodder should never be very useful in a battle.  Anything that the jotunblut creatures fought wouldnt be able to do dmg to the scions, so there isnt a point. 

You just compared the most versatile psp and the least versatile one and called them the same.  They are the two extremes of the psps.  Arete has the least narrow focus by far, its focus can be whatever you want it to.  Creatures that take jotunblut should rarely if ever be useful.  Anything they fight a scion should be able to one shot, at demigod this gets serious, and at god it gets ridiculous.   If you think other wise you are seriously bad at math. 

The same to  your player that got arete in 5 different crafts(i let arete apply to all crafts), it would have been infinitely better for him to just get the epics that deal with craft, the few extra dice 5 different times are completely nominal.  I love arete, but thats just bad bad math. 

Wll I'm the ST, and I do not allow Arete for *all* Crafts. Its one of those skills that requires you to actually list which Craft your good at, and I treat Arete the same way.
Jotunblut is as useful as the ST allows it to be useful. Just like players having Zombies or whatever. Really they are pretty weak arent they as Relic/Creatures/Followers or whatever. But many people seem to love using them for battles. Same goes for Jotunblunt enhanced mortals. They can be useful. If they arent, I hope your not just nerfing them but allowing Soldiers Followers, Zombies, etc, be useful.
The tactic my players used was using 5 to a dozens berserks (jotunblunt mortals) charge the titanspawn with weapons. Many of the weapons are useful since they once belong to Titanspawn themselves. While the titanspawn deals (attacks them using up his action), the Scions then make their move for the finishing blows or in some cases the actual only attacks to do damage to the titanspawn taking it out fast.

So to you the Sparti, Myrmidon, Einherjar, Berserk/thralls, Zombie/mummy are useless huh. Because that what Jotunblut allows you to do. Create your own Followers (which you pay for). At higher levels they are still usefull, very useful. Send them to fight the Mainbadguy's minions to leave yourself open to combat the bigbad. Why waste Legend on fighting the minions. Good thing about Jotunblunt Berserks is you can increase their power over time, by giveing them the updated level of Jotunblunt boon next time. Yeah I know they do not stack, just replace the lower levels. And by the 9th Dot, you can create your own Giants, which can give even Scions (hero) a very hard time, and prove useful against demigod foes as well.