Am I the only one who hopes people will use Ignis Divine rather then Sol Invictus?

Lian:

Clearly one of the Defilers in my game is related to her since she does the exact same thing.

It all started when I got bored trying to think of a side kick character... So I started randomly rolling dice for type, caste, and mutations and then created the backstory. 

I ended up with a Water Caste house Cynis slave who's mutations litterally made her a small catgirl... with gills and wallclimbing.  I ended up having to create a race of quasi-parasitic wyld-mutated humans in the west who live on cliff-faces and will occasionally glomp onto the sides of passing ships to catch a ride to a new cliff. 

She had a lot of issues and ended up being one of the best assassins in Creation... just because one of the first exalts to NOT try and kill her on sight was a Night caste assassin.  She was one number away from trying to become the best priest of the Unconquered Sun possible.

Adamant Siaka:

mercucio:

Eldagusto:

I was never found of people using Sol Invictus for the Sun... it just bugged me for some reason.

Probably because you are unfamiliar with the poem Invictus. Ignis Divine is shit-tastic.

You're entitled to your opinion, and we're entitled to make fun of you.  I mean, respect it.

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Thankfully yours means as little to me as the dust in the folds of my sneaker treads =P.

Eldagusto:

As for Myself I have it that Both the Unconquered Sun and Malfeas' Original Fetish were Both Unconquered Suns back in the olden days.  His Fetich was not Conquered in Battle but executed and Ignis Divine was free to take the title solely for himself.

Actually i would say Phaeton would be far more adequate - in poetic and ironic ways - to Ligier.

Not to mention Ligier is a piece of someone bigger, that on itself puts a serious crimp upon the Unconquered part.

The Infernal is just crazy and has invented a SWLIHN charm who's purpose is basically to make maids... this has not helped the mental capacity of SWLIHN

Lian:

The Infernal is just crazy and has invented a SWLIHN charm who's purpose is basically to make maids... this has not helped the mental capacity of SWLIHN

Awesome as that idea is, what is it doing in this thread?

Inugami:

Lian:

The Infernal is just crazy and has invented a SWLIHN charm who's purpose is basically to make maids... this has not helped the mental capacity of SWLIHN

Awesome as that idea is, what is it doing in this thread?

Was responding to Old Canuk's Catgirl description.

A question - is Ignis Divine pronounced the normal English way, or "di-VEE-nay"?

It is actually pronounced ru-purt but I can see how you got confused.

Taurus II:

A question - is Ignis Divine pronounced the normal English way, or "di-VEE-nay"?

I say it the normal English way, actually, but if you feel the proper pronunciation is best, go for it. Creation has way too many dialects for me to imply that just one carries the day.

Well, Ignis Divine seems to scream "Holy Fire" or "Holy Light."  Sol Invictus, name or title, is who He is.

I call him Mardock.  He totally rules, but don't bother telling him, because he totally already knows it.

I, for one...

Just like 'Sol Invictus.' It just sounds cool, whereas Ignis Divine sounds like it's trying just a bit too hard. It's like the difference between 'Callous Slayer of Souls' and 'He who Crushes the Bones of that Creation-Born'.

Plus, 'Sol Invictus' sounds like a guy who's about to seriously smote you, whereas 'Ignis Divine' sounds more like something you steal from the gods to give to the mortals.

Luna and the planets don't weird me out being Latin, but the Unconquered Sun not, because in aw ay, while the words originated in Latin, at this point, they are also English ones to me.  Much how words like "ninja", "genre" and "coyote" at this point are part of English, or that we use names like Tokyo, Kabul or Ghandi.  Yes, they are "foreign" words, but are now part of the English volcabulary.  I hear Mercury and I think its an English word, even though it was orignally Greek.  I hear Luna and likewise.  Yes, its only usually used in a fantasy or romantic context, but "luanr" as a word is one I hear all the time and Luna is used to the point in fantasy and romantic descriptions of the moon (Terra-Luna for instance) that I think it as also part of English.

Sol Invictus doesn't do that.  Oftentimes, in documentaries or references to it, the term is directly translated I find.  Its not a common day use.  No one uses Invictus in English, as I can find.  Its not "intergrated" into the language quite as smoothly as the other celestial bodies.  I hear Mars and I think a planet, the god and such, but Mars at this point very much is as much an English word as it is anything and the Romans themselves didn't use the word.  Our word for Sun comes from a commona ncestor of that of Sol (lots of Grim's Law and a Germanic root first emssing that up), but in the end, neither Sol nor Invictus, to me, feel Englishy.  It just stands-out compared to the everday-used planets or the very-common Luna.  And even then, those later names are as a result of them evolving to their current English form.  THey are the English equivilants of 2000 year old words.  And Unconquered Sun fits that more then the very anachronistic and not-ENglish Sol Invictus.

Exalted often goes out of its way to use very stragiht-forward, modern English terms.  It has eceptiosn, like Yozi, sifu, dojo, shinma, raksha, Akuma, samsara and jouten, but I would argue that some of those aren't even the best choices.  I would of rather less Japanese whenever possible, personally and more sanskrit, but what you can do there I guess.  But for the Incarna, I get this vibe of using the most modern, "yeah, that hting" names for them.  We all know the planet names, so they didn't mess around and make them exotic to be exotic.  Luna is common a name.  But we have very few names for the Sun save the Sun or we get names like Apollo or Helios, but still old and not-English sounding.  So we got a direct translation adn it seems to fit, at least to me.

This is all ranting here, but my personal feelings on it.  Sol Invictus sounds fancy to be fancy.  It puts weight to the words being not-English that the other planets in Creation don't have.  So I think Unconquered Sun fits better then folks give it credit for.

And stuff.

Maybe it's because I'm a sci-fi guy at heart: I'm used to thinking of our solar system as Sol System; hence the word 'Sol' is English to me. As for Invictus, well, that's just a funky last name. :)

I started out using Sol Invictus in the rough draft, because I love the name, but I was told to take it out. Ignis Divine is not an also-ran, I planned to introduce it as a way of referring to him anyway, but it was not my object to make it "better" or more "official" than any other name. I just wanted to offer another way of referring to him, plus I badly needed to get around typing "the Unconquered Sun" 2-3 times a paragraph.