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[quote user="Verzio"][quote user="Epimetheus"]o matter what you might say RAW does not allow this charm to be a natural sidereal charm.[/quote] The same rules texts (in SotM and SoH) that say Sidereals have the charm exclude DBs from having a version of the charm. So, the Sidereal version of Soul-Enlightening Beneficence must, by
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Those lines are eventually going to be omitted.
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[quote user="nick012000"][quote user="Epimetheus"]I REALLY REALLY AM HAVING TROUBLE KEEPING MY COOL RIGHT NOW. Celestial Crane,[/quote] Soft martial arts. Redirecting Force rather than Hitting People. Same focus, just defensive in nature. [quote user="Epimetheus"]Ebon Shadow,[/quote] Being a Ninja and Hitting People. [quote
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[quote user="Malovich"] Martial Arts, by extension of your response, have *nothing* to do with esoteric practices, enlightenment, teaching, or any other proposal that you are putting forward here. Martial Arts is the ability to hit people with your fists, and some selection of weapons. To pare down an ability to how it is defined in the Core
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[quote user="Verzio"] So, would any Celestial who has extensive Occult/Lore knowledge have bothered to re-invent Soul-Enlightening Beneficence specifically as a Celestial-level MA charm? And if so, would there be enough interest in it from Celestial-level martial artists for people to bother perpetuating it?[/quote] It's not reinventing
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[quote user="Isator Levi"]-Other creatures have an easier time replenishing their fuel. Vampires only need to drain a few random bystanders, changelings can suck up Glamour from any emotional person (or occasionally place or object), loci provide a fairly large amount of Essence per dot, and it can also be gotten from spirits.[/quote] Mages
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[quote user="Malovich"] A great sifu is going to have some lore. It may not necessarily be their highest ability, and they may not have dedicated their entire life to academia, but it will be there, in one form or another. Along with Socialize, understanding the customs of the culture they come from and the social forms of the MA world. Perhaps
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[quote user="Sydow"] "Characters with the Lore Ability have some knowledge of current events, history, geography and the customs of other lands, as well as the magical secrets of First Age technology." [/quote] As Sydow quoted... Lore is not a teaching ability it does have teaching charms in there but it is the formal knowledge of
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[quote user="Inugami"]I'm siding with the people who argue that a martial artist who wants to teach and enlighten others need to learn other Abilities. Without the proper Abilities, a fighter can only attempt to teach someone else by forcing them to emulate what they do, without explaining how and why it works, and to have the student
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[quote user="nick012000"][quote user="Epimetheus"]Simply because you say "himself, with Enlightened Essence" doesn't mean he has enlightened essence any more than saying "Himself, with solar essence" makes him a solar. [/quote] Actually, you'd need "Himself, with a Solar Exaltation" to make him