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I've started working on the Lunar charms, and have come to a conclusion:
For the same of systemic sanity, Charms that *can* effect Organizations need to primarily interface with CRM Organization qualities, rather than flipping constantly between Leader DMDV and Magnitude.

Which has me wanting to revise my earlier work with Solars.

I hate to be picky, but it would easier to read your Charms if they mimicked the official errata format.

A general comment: I mislike Instant duration charms in the CRM, since they have, effectively, no cost. There's rarely a reason to ever not use them. However, that's a distinct discussion, and one I'm not going to re-iterate every comment here.

Second, a general question on many of your Charms- does the Lunar have to be the Leader undertaking the Action to gain these benefits, or does he just have to be around and using it on the Organization's behalf? What if the Leader is actively rejecting the Lunar's power (which, granted, is more than a bit like rejecting the benefit from Speed the Wheels, but never mind that now)- are they resistible or irresistible?



I would probably just ditch the use of Capital entirely- it's akward and unhelpful in this case. Just have the Lunar make an 'Attack Asset' or 'Attack Project' roll each week- and that's if and only if it's easier to do so than just to adjucate what projects and assets have been ruined.

Does a Kaiju Lunar have a planning period before smashing Neo-Nexus?



Clever! I like it!



On the one hand, this seems a bit of a stretch- what does 'Replenish Capital' look like, for instance.
On the other hand, it's a damned cool idea.

I'm inclined to err on the side of damned cool idea



I disagree with these, but mostly because I'm working on a more generalizable approach towards altering an Organization's Intimacies via Charms.



So, questions: Why only Attack Asset? Why not Attack Project, or Contest Project- both of which certainly benefit from being sneakier? What if your Organization is very small, such that there'd be a lot of 'wasted effort', as it were (IE, a Size 1 Organization making an attack shouldn't receive the same benefit as a Size 3 Organization, when the Lord of Luthe is the one organizing it)

I might suggest actually treating this Charm as a Special Asset, with Rank equal to your Essence, when it's active- which is going to be functionally similar, but avoids weirdness of potentially getting into Essence > Difficulty situations. Then, you don't have to specify what Actions it can apply to; however, the Action getting the benefit must be one that benefits from being concealed. I can certainly visualize that being helpful in some Grow Asset actions.



Was the Attack Asset action successful, in such a case? This is important, especially if the action was piratical (IE, does the other Organization get to grow), and for determining how much Capital is recouped.

How long does the internal penalty last?

This is a troublesome Charm, to me- I would probably ditch the original effect for something entirely new.



This seems reasonable.



I disagree with these, but mostly because I'm working on a more generalizable approach towards altering an Organization's Intimacies via Charms.



This seems like kind of a random effect for the originally given power (IE, making social attacks against social groups more effective). Can you explain your thinking?



Hm! Interesting!
On the one hand, this doesn't really have anything to do with the original effect, of making some Intimacies harder to retain and easier to lose.

On the other hand, it's an awesome idea and provides a clear and clever tool for Lunars.

Gonna go with a thumbs up on it- it's divergent, but totally sweet



Whoa!
Whoa whoa whoa!

You can use Shift Policy / Structure on *other* Organizations?
I thought you could normally only use this on your own Organization!

That said, I like the effect.



This seems kind of divergent from the original Charm- it doesn't mind whammy people into accepting the Lunar's territory, it just makes it suck for them if they don't.

I would say that it simply applies a Difficulty reduction of 1 to any action an Organization entirely within the territory undertakes, and a Difficulty increase of 1 to any action targetting an Organization within the territory, if the Organization belongs to the Lunar.



Why Influence?



So, wait. Lemee see if I understand this.
Lunar Bob has a hoard of rats (from Dog Tongue Method), and initiates an Attack Asset action against Solar Alice's Organization.
Bob uses School in the Reeds Technique.
That Attack Asset Project can no longer be targeted by Solar Jill?
Is this correct?



I disagree with these, but mostly because I'm working on a more generalizable approach towards altering an Organization's Intimacies via Charms.

(I sense a theme!)



Silver Coin Bargain is very tightly focused around subjegating an individual; I wouldn't see it as having an impact within the CRM (short of, like, subverting an opposing leader, or otherwise entering Storyline Intervention territory).

That said, this is a cool idea for an expansion charm; I would probably roll it as something like 'Capital invested into Transfer Capital can also count as capital invested in a Shift Policy action, intended to encourage a positive intimacy towards your Organization' or the like.

(Whew. Alright, need a break for breakfast- I'll try and get back to the rest shortly)

Remarking only on the ones I see a problem with:



Couldn't this also be used for physical Grow Asset actions, particularly those construction projects that would benefit greatly from a giant beast of burden? Likewise Reallocate Asset actions that seek to move an organization's location, as a giant eagle picks up and carries packages along.



Weak and lame. As I've said before, this effect should be part of a larger Knack or Charm that lets you act exactly like the person you're imitating.



Breaking pattern to say that this is interesting. But not beyond Solar Exalted who seek to develop beyond Friendship With Animals Approach.



Next leadership action or interval roll.



This seems like too much, and doesn't make sense. I don't think you ought to be absorbing an Asset dot AND converting it into Capital. That's too much like having your cake and eating it.

What makes more sense is gaining the point of Capital that your target naturally lost for losing that Asset dot, and needing to use that point immediately.



Why not simply make it a mirror of Conceptual Entropy Module, with the power to instantly destroy an Intimacy in either a social group or an organization?



If you're going that route, you might as well include a protection against any Reallocate Asset actions that the Lunar doesn't authorize.



I'll break pattern again to remark that this right here is really neat.



Cool.



This is completely at odds with the Charm's normal function, which is offensive and external rather than internal and self-adaptive.



This would be nice, but I don't know if it should be packed into one Charm or require an upgrade for the benefit.



Protect Organization doesn't have intervals except for the purpose of a planning period, so taking three of them against a single action doesn't actually make sense.



What's an appropriate organization?

Then take three planning periods.



Different games will probably have different answers to that. Some may be more appropriate than others, and only get the first bonus because they're always well-fed. Others may depend considerably on what grows from the ground and get the full benefit because of how their ample stocks and weird byproducts allow them to do business.

No sweat, I'm just trying to make it to the 2.5 release without scratching what's left of my hair out.

HAH. You only thought that I was done chewing on this bone because I hadn't posted anything for several weeks!

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New Keyword: Mandate

Charms with the Keyword 'Mandate' have a specific function for use with the Creation-Ruling Mandate subsystem, introduced in Masters of Jade. That use is described in the additional text.

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System Concept: Subversion and Propaganda

It is possible, using an Attack Asset Action, substituting Influence for Competence, to alter an Organization's Intimacies. Such efforts are typically made up of propaganda, gift giving, false flag operations or even direct subversion of influential individuals within the Organization.

An appropriate Protect Organization Action can help an Organization maintain internal integrity; in particular, many religious Organizations work to stamp out internal heresies, keeping a stricter control over the orthodoxy of the membership.

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System Concept: Emblems

Organizations may be blessed or cursed with touches of the divine. Often, these marks are too subtle for daily consideration, but in the aggregate push an Organization towards or away from certain actions.
Savants call these marks 'Emblems'.

In many respects, Emblems are similar to Special Assets- however, they are something external to the Organization, and rarely under it's control.

Exalted see Emblems as a mixed blessing- they often allow the Chosen to influence Organizations without committing the time and essence that more pervasive control requires, but Emblems are also slower and more subject to failure.

If an Organization's Action would be boosted by more than one Emblem, the Leader chooses which takes precedence. If an Organization's Action would be contested by more than one Emblem, the one with the greatest Rank takes precedence. If multiple negative Emblems have the same Rank, the ST decides.

Emblems have a Rank, and may generally be reduced through the Attack Asset Action. Instead of Competence, Size or Reach, Emblems have Endurance; use an Emblem's Endurance in place of all other Asset when interacting with an Emblem.

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Charm Concept: Charms and Leadership Actions in the Creation Ruling Mandate

Many Charms of the Exalted duplicate, in whole or in part, Leadership Actions that may be undertaken within the Creation Ruling Mandate.

Such Charm-driven Projects do not require a Planning Period or Capital. However, unless otherwise specified, they do require the normal Interval to succeed, and may be Attacked as any other Project. Furthermore, if an Exalt is acting alone- only capable of making the attack because of their Charm - their Competence is assumed to be 0, unless otherwise specified by a specific Charm.

More unusually, a Charm-driven Project may suffer from a disaster, making it less likely to be accepted; however, for a disaster to strike a Charm-driven project, it must disrupt the subtle magic winding through the Organization. Such things rarely happen by chance.

A Charm-driven Project suffer automatic failure if it incurs an additional Capital cost, from being attacked or otherwise, equal to the invoking Exalt's Essence.

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Charm Concept: Antagonistic Leadership in the Creation Ruling Mandate

Many Charms of the Exalted partially or completely usurp control of an Organization away from it's nominal leadership- and leaders will tend to want to resist these effects.

If any relevant Leader in the Organization objects to the effect of the Charm, and the Exalt would not have authority to undertake the action without the Charm, then the effects become a contested roll. If the Charm in question is intimately tied to a particular action, use the Attribute + Ability best suited for the action; if there is no clear Leadership Action to tie the charm to, default to (Intelligence or Charisma) + Bureaucracy.

A Leader is relevant if they both object and would have the authority to either begin or halt a comporable Project themselves, or if they could provide consent to the Organization becoming a subsidiary to another Organization.

If the Exalt succeeds, the Charm takes effect normally. If the leader succeeds, the Exalt cannot attempt to use the same effect again until at least one interval has passed for the Project, defaulting to one month if there is no obvious Interval.

An Organization which has an appropriate Protect Organization project in place, such as one that reinforces it's internal integrity against interlopers, or one that is specially hardend via thaumaturgical rituals against the magics of the Solar Exalted, may apply the external penalty against the Exalt's roll.

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SOLAR BUREAUCRACY

Insightful Buyer Technique (p. 231)
New Keyword: Mandate
Duration: Indefinite

If used to supplement a Leadership Action, this Charm acts as a Special Asset of Rank (Essence) for purposes of buying and selling goods. It is especially useful and appropriate for Grow Asset (Wealth) actions, but any Action which focuses on buying and selling- particularly trading improbable goods in improbable markets -may benefit from it.

Speed the Wheels (p. 231)
New Keyword: Mandate
Duration: One Leadership Action Planning Period

When used to enhance a Leadership Action, divide the planning period of the action by (Essence +1).
This has no impact on the Interval of the Project as a whole.
In order to use Speed the Wheels, you must either be a member of the Organization undertaking the Project, directly involved with the Project, or have spoken with the Leader in the past week.

Bureau-Rectifying Method (p. 231)
New Keyword: Mandate
Duration: One Leadership Action

When used to enhance a Leadership Action, this reduces the Capital cost of the Project by (Essence), to a minimum of half the original Capital cost.
In order to use Bureau-Rectifying Method, you must either be a member of the Organization undertaking the Project, directly involved with the Project, or have spoken with the Leader in the past week.

Additionally, if the Project is successfully completed, the Organization gains an Emblem of 'Incorruptible', with Rank 1.
An Organization with this Emblem operates more smoothly and efficiently than otherwise possible, allowing it to ignore increases in Capital cost equal to the Emblem's Rank, as long as those increases come through social or bureaucratic means; your factors may not be bribed, but they can be taken as slaves despite their resolute natures.
Each successive Project completed with Bureau-Rectifying Method increases the Rank of this Emblem by 1, to a maximum of (Bureaucracy). It has Endurance equal to your Essence.
It automatically reduces in Rank once per year, if it has not been grown through use of Bureau-Rectifying Method over the past year.

Indolent Official Charm (p. 232)
New Keyword: Mandate
Duration: One Leadership Action Planning Period

When used to attack a Leadership Action, multiply the planning period of the action by (Essence +1).
This has no impact on the Interval of the Project as a whole.
In order to use Indolent Official Charm, you must either be a member of the Organization undertaking the Project, directly involved with the Project, or have spoken with the Leader in the past week.

Foul Air of Arguement Technique (p. 232)
New Keyword: Mandate
Duration: One Leadership Action

When used to attack a Leadership Action, increase the Capital cost of the Project by (Essence).
In order to use Foul Air of Arguement Technique, you must either be a member of the Organization undertaking the Project, directly involved with the Project, or have spoken with the Leader in the past week.

Additionally, if the Project suffers failure, the Organization gains an Emblem of 'Corrupt', with Rank 1.
An Organization with this Emblem operates less efficiently than otherwise possible, increasing the Capital cost of all it's Projects by the Emblem's Rank.
Each successive Project failed with Foul Air of Arguement increases the Rank of this Emblem by 1, to a maximum of to a maximum of (Bureaucracy). It has Endurance equal to your Essence.
It automatically reduces in Rank once per year, if it has not been grown through use of Foul Air of Arguement Technique over the past year.

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SOLAR SOCIALIZE

Wise-Eyed Courtier Method (p. 238)
New Keyword: Mandate
Duration: One Shift Policy/Structure Leadership Action

Wise-Eyed Courtier Method allows you to undertake a Shift Policy/Structure Leadership Action to add, alter or remove an Intimacy from an Organization, as long as that Intimacy is centered around the Organization's beliefs.
If you cannot act as a Leader, you must either be a member of the targetted Organization, or be able to spend several hours each week communicating with members of the Organization. Furthermore, when not acting as a Leader, you cannot target an Organization which has a Size greater than your Essence.

Wild Revelry Approach (p. 238)
New Keyword: Mandate
Duration: One Shift Policy/Structure Leadership Action

Wild Revelry Approach allows you to undertake a Shift Policy/Structure Leadership Action to add, alter or remove an Intimacy from an Organization, as long as that Intimacy is centered around the Organization's emotional context.
If you cannot act as a Leader, you must either be a member of the targetted Organization, or be able to spend several hours each week communicating with members of the Organization. Furthermore, when not acting as a Leader, you cannot target an Organization which has a Size greater than your Essence.

Taboo Inflicting Diatribe (p. 238)
New Keyword: Mandate
Duration: One Shift Policy/Structure Leadership Action

Taboo Inflicting Diatribe allows you to undertake a Shift Policy/Structure Leadership Action to add, alter or remove an Intimacy from an Organization, as long as that Intimacy is centered around the Organization's members acting in a specific fashion.
If you cannot act as a Leader, you must either be a member of the targetted Organization, or be able to spend several hours each week communicating with members of the Organization. Furthermore, when not acting as a Leader, you cannot target an Organization which has a Size greater than your Essence.

Venemous Whispers Technique (p. 239)
New Keyword: Mandate
Duration: One Attack Action

Venemous Whispers Techniqe allows you to make an Attack Asset, Attack Project or Contest Project Action.
If you cannot act as a Leader, you must either be a member of the targetted Organization, or be able to spend several hours each week communicating with members of the Organization. Furthermore, when not acting as a Leader, you cannot target an Organization which has a Size greater than your Essence.
The attack made with Venemous Whispers Technique must be primarily social in nature.

Understanding the Court (p. 239)
Cost: 10m, 1wp
New Keyword: Mandate

With an active profile, you know all the standard Assets of an Organization, the leadership structure of the Organization, and any Special Assets which are people. You also learn of any immediate subsidaries, as well as any immediate parent Organizations.

Gathering the Congregation (p. 240)
New Keyword: Mandate

Divide the successes on your Charisma + (Performance / Socialize) roll between Size and Influence. Size cannot be greater than (Charisma).
You gain an Organization with those Assets, as well as a Reach of 1, and Wealth and Competence determined by the available locals and what your spontaneous Organization's context is.
At the ST's discretion, you may be limited in the maximum available Size- you are calling people together, not summoning them from Elsewhere.
You may also temporarily seduce members away from other Organizations- potentially rendering Projects more costly or even outright impossible.

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OTHER SOLAR MANDATE CHARMS

Sun King's Radiance (p. 201)
New Keyword: Mandate

A Solar with Sun King's Radiance, who is also a Leader of an Organization, imposes a -1 external penalty on any attempt for others to socially attack or subvert that Organization; this is cumulative with any efforts from an appropriate Protect Organization.

Sun King's Radiance provides no protection against attacks initiated by other Solar Exalted, by the Abyssal Exalted, or by the Green Sun Princes- either magical or mundane. It also provides no protection from attacks other than the social; the loyalty of your people will not save them from a barbarian raiding party's blades.

Food Gathering Exercise (p. 210)
New Keyword: Mandate
Duration: One Reallocate Asset Action

This Charm acts as a Special Asset of Rank 3 for assisting in an appropriate Reallocate Asset Action, intended to change an Organization's Reach. It makes moving with inadequette supplies or other difficulties possible. Food Gathering Exercise cannot be used to assist an Organization with a Size greater than your (Essence /2).

Trackless Region Navigation (p. 211)
New Keyword: Mandate

This Charm reduces the Interval by half for appropriate Reallocate Asset Action, intended to change an Organization's Reach. It may only be used if the Organization is crossing overland. Trackless Region Navigation cannot be used to assist an Organization with a Size greater than your (Essence /2).

City Moving Secrets (p. 211)

This Charm increases the Size of an Organization you can assist with Survival Charms that bear the Mandate keyword by 1. It may be purchased a maximum of (Essence / 2) times.

Immanent Solar Glory (p. 218)
New Keyword: Mandate

Each time a Solar initiates or completes a Project with an Organization as a Leader, he gains (Size) motes. This is the only way for a Solar to fill the additional Peripheral pool provided by purhcases of Immanet Solar Glory.

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Where's Solar War?

Exalted's Mass Combat system is in an... interesting place, and an obvious desire could be to tear it out and replace it with the Creation-Ruling Mandate. However, while the Creation-Ruling Mandate is a useful tool for managing war as a whole, it is a poor tool for managing individual battles- and this is the area that Solar War particularly focuses upon. Thus, rather than try and cram a square peg into a round hole, STs are encouraged to provide significant bonuses for Exalts undertaking militaritic actions within the CRM with the advantage of Solar War charms- in particular, Commanding the Ideal Celestial Army, General of the All-Seeing Sun and Ideal Battle Knowledge Prana may act in the intermediate level between particular battles and the war as a whole.

Where's Solar Linguistics?

Unlike the above Charms, Solar Linguistics is not generally displayed as a tool for acting on the Organizational stage, although it can have obvious use in such regard. As such, it is far less capable of being aimed or carefully deployed, unlike the more focused magics found in Bureaucracy, Socialize and scattered throughout the Solar trees. In particular, it is often better to treat such magic, as with Presence or Performance, as social attacks against the leadership, which may undertake the desired actions- rather than directly forcing those actions upon the Organization. The works themselves often serve as a Special Asset, with a Rank equal to the Charm's Essence minimum, for use by the Leadership in bringing about the desired change.

STs are encouraged to remember that the CRM is meant to reflect the state of the world, not to enforce it. If a Solar propagandist has successfully convinced everyone in an Organization of something via Linguistics, then the Organization's Intimacies and Policy should reflect this; a Solar that dedicates themself to conquoring the world via the pen instead of the sword is every bit as capable of doing so. Nor is Linguistics intended as an area that cannot have Mandate charms- simply that those in the Core book are not intended for such.

Benevolent Master's Blessing (p. 161)
New Keywords Mandate, Cooperative
Duration Indefinite

By cunningly and selectively boosting the bureaucratic accumen of his subordinates at the right moments, a Terrestrial with Benevolent Master's Blessing may functionally increase the Competence of an Organization they are part of. Doing so requires committing 4m per +1, and cannot raise the Organization's Competence above your Bureaucracy; nor can a Terrestrial assist an Organization with Size greater than their Intelligence. Benevolent Master's Blessing only raises the Competence of an Organization primarily focused around either business or some other bureaucracy.

Multiple Dragonblooded with Benevolent Master's Blessing may coordinate; each additional Terrestrial beyond the first either reduces the total mote cost each one must pay by 1m (to a minimum of 1m per +1), or increases the size of the Organization that can be assisted by +1.

Example Sesus Kazia is building a business, and uses Benevolent Master's Blessing. The Business is Size 3, which is less than his Intelligence of 4, and has a natural Competence of 2, which is less than his Bureaucracy of 5. Kaiza committs 8m, raising the effective Competence of his business by +2, to 4.

Later, things have gone well for Kaiza- but his business can grown to Size 5; too large for him to manage on his own. He invites three cousins to join him, all with Benevolent Master's Blessing. One is dedicated to assisting with the maximum size, which the other two reduce the cost each must bear. All four Dragonblooded must committ 6m (8m -2m reduction for having two assistants) in order to maintain the same benefits.

Geese-Flying-South Administration (p. 162)
New Keyword Mandate
Duration One Leadership Action

When initiating a bureaucratic-based Project, you may use Geese-Flying-South Administration; the project proceeds as if the Organization had a positive intimacy towards completing the Project. However, you cannot use an Terrestrial Exalted as Special Assets and enjoy this benefit, unless you are Essence 3+ and the Exalted are descendents and subordinates within the Organization's hierarchy.

Thrashing Carp Serenade (p. 163)
New Keyword Mandate
Duration One Contest Project Action

Thrashing Carp Serenade allows you to make a Contest Project Action in a business or bureaucracy-related context.
If you cannot act as a Leader, you must either be a member of the targetted Organization, or be able to spend several hours each week communicating with members of the Organization. Furthermore, when not acting as a Leader, you cannot target an Organization which has a Size greater than your Essence.

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What about Wind-Carried Words?

Wind-Carried Words does not directly operate on the Creation-Ruling Mandate scale; instead, STs are reminded that Projects cannot be initiated until the right people have been informed, and magical transmision of information can functionally provide great speed boosts in doing so.

In particular, an Organization with a high number of Terrestrials with Wind-Carried Words should be considered to have an easier time expressing and expanding it's Reach.

What about Sweeten-the-Tap Method, Brother-Against-Brother Insinuation, or the rest of Dragonblooded Socialize?

Dragonblooded Socialize acts very similarly to Solar Performance, in that it often helps in instilling an idea or belief in a large group- however, it is not independently transformative. While it may be an easy arguement for stunt fodder or another advantage, Sweeten-the-Tap Method will not alter an Organization in the same fashion as Taboo-Inflicting Diatribe.

(By the by, am I just shouting in the dark with this, or is anyone still interested in them?)

In fact, I am going to use the stuff that was posted in this thread RIGHT NOW. WATCH ME GO

Ohh sorry, too stunned to give proper thanks. Still going through it. Going to use it when my players start looking for custom CRM charms ;)

So, after our first playtest - why do emblems have such extensive character sheets? Is there some mechanic we're missing? They seem to function like another type of Special Asset that works alongside normal Special Assets, correct?

You're likely right on this.

My mental model for how Organizations behave is that they usually have between 2 to 4 excess Capital committed to their Projects, as both disaster insurance and as a guard against Attacks- enough such that a single application of Foul Air of Arguement, on it's own, wouldn't fail the project immediately. However, it might be better to hold more closely to the original text, and represent this as an internal penalty on the leadership rolls, though; have to think about it.

(Regime-Toppling Lord of Misrule should still probably use the increasing Capital cost mechanic, IMO; given the extreme damage it can inflict, that seems appropriate)



I found that I was getting into some weirdness with an Organization attacking it's own Special Assets, but Attack Asset is really the best action to use to represent fighting against such influences, IMO- namely, that's significantly harder for a large organization to purge itself of such magic than it is to have such magic imposed upon it. Therefore, an Emblem needs to have enough of a sheet to be reasonably subject to an Attack Asset action, and should be based upon the creator of the Emblem, rather than the Organization it is on.

Also, because Emblems do something different than Special Assets- they don't enable actions or (neccesarily) make actions easier- they do /something else/. Giving them more heft makes that distinction sharper.

That said, some of the numbers could be collapsed together; in particular, Rank and Competence could be closely aligned without doing significant damage. Or you could use a single trait of the Emblem-Creator's (likely Essence) for all the Emblem's traits

Once you get into doubling up on Foul Air of Arguement and Attack Project actions you are getting into the 6+ region of needing more capital. An Essence 5 Solar can probably make that an increase of 9 Capital. Without giving everyone external capital penalty reducers this is pretty heavily dominating. I would say too much.

Solars are scary, film at 11?

Here's my considerations with internal penalties vs increasing capital costs:
* Internal penalties are not felt very strongly by PCs / people with Excellencies; they are a speed bump, but rarely an absolute impediment. While many Organizations are mortal run, ultimately Exalts are going to come into conflict with Exalts- the Eclipse shouldn't feel slighted when this occurs.

* Internal penalties are felt VERY strongly by heroic mortals. Unless said mortal can way, WAY overcapitalize a project, a -4 internal penalty could easily make it functionally or actually impossible.

* Increasing the capital cost by a fixed amount is a pain felt by the Organization, regardless of who's running it.

* Fucking with capital costs is a change within the Creation Ruling Mandate system; it can be responded to within it. Imposing internal penalties is something external to the system, and has no clear response within it.

* Purging corruption makes an excellent rationale / context for a Cannabalize Asset action to make up capital shortfalls, which fits with the described effects of FAoA and many Bureaucracy-impeding charms.

FAoA does kind of stand out oddly, however, in that doesn't use the normal CRM systems for attacking projects- it's just kind of a hammer right now, and only counterable by Bureau Rectifying Method. The obvious solution is to make FAoA into an Attack Project action, with a bonus of the Emblem if the attacked project fails; this also would mean that Protect Organization functions appropriately. But then it loses the nice symmetry it has with Bureau Rectifying Method... troublesome.

Shall have to think on it.

That wasn't there yesterday! >.>

Okay, now I feel dumb. I thought I read the thread and instead I managed to miss the entire top half of the second page. >.<



I can see that yes, but I can also see where Miss Maddy is coming from regarding them having too large character sheets. You should probably think about collapsing it into one or two statistics. I feel that two is probably best for maintaining a bit of variety on emblem effects without overburdening the system.

I was thinking something like Rank and Power. One to indicate how pervasive, entrenched, or otherwise well positioned the emblem is, which determines how hard or difficult it is to remove. The other to indicate how much of an effect the emblem has on the organization. So high Rank and low Power Emblem might be petty corruption, things like people stealing paper, making personal calls on the job, or such minor misuses of company time and resources, but it's so widespread that it's really hard to root out because "everyone does it". On the other hand, a low Rank but high Power Emblem might be something like two of your accountants conspiring to move significant sums of company money to their offshore bank accounts. It causes a lot of damage, but is easily rectified by throwing those two guys in the slammer.

What kind of Rank and Power each emblem has would probably depend on the charm that introduces it.

Thanks! I think Rank for size of effect and Endurance for difficulty of rooting it out works pretty well and is fairly clear in their meanings.

The separation of the two also allows for a bit of tactical flexibility. High rank effects are better against organizations which have most of their capital committed and thus would have difficulty counter-acting it. Whereas high endurance effects are better against organizations that have more uncommitted capital, since it would tie up their resources longer in trying to root it out.