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Canon NPCs Reimagined
Sucal
Sunday, March 04, 2012 11:08:33 PM(UTC)

In a rare moment of Lucidity after the Baloran crusade/great Contagion, Saibok begged but a single favor from his only living student... to ensure that he would be around to try and save creation at its time of greatest peril. With a heavy heart, Chejop Kejack agreed, and added special privisos into the loom for his reincarnation. That his next life ended up exalting, yet might causing the collapse of both the realm and creation itself would be enough to give Kejak a heart attack, due to yet another decision for the best turning out to bite him.

The Roseblack used to wonder why the only time she ever felt at peace was on the battlefield, fighting for her life. It was through personal example as much as it was through tactics and leadership that she reformed the red piss legion. All those who meet her, feel the urge to be better, to do better, simply to avoid disappointing her. Setting a shining example for all, the only trait that prevents all from following her is the loyalty she had felt towards the Empress.

Only Mnemon understands the connection, and it is for this reason that she fears the Roseblack far more then any exalt alive or dead, even her mother. It is also for this fact Righteous Orphan activities tripled after her mother returned... though none dare make the connection to her face.
Alnilam wrote:
Exaltations are broken. Proof: hardly anybody would make a character without one.

The need to have an Exaltation to avoid being strictly inferior is especially unfortunate because it invalidates the viability of about 499,989,300 character concepts in Creation.
Inugami
Monday, March 05, 2012 12:47:50 AM(UTC)

DShomshak wrote:
Yeah, the whole knot of love and loss and guilt was traumatic, but not 15 centuries of hiding from the world while playing out elaborate revenge fantasy traumatic.

Yeeeeeeeeees.


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I'd put more emphasis on him destroying the Western Fleet to keep it from the Usurpers' hands. It was his pride, his care, his Stewardship -- and he destroyed it all in one moment of passion.

I wonder if there are Intimacy-based Lunar Charms which cause a blacklash if the subject is destroyed, and which cause a BIGGER backlash if the Lunar himself destroys them.

Perhaps Leviathan's pride was greater than his love. He could not stand to see his love turned against him, so he destoyed it to save his own life. Now he survives, but his Lunar Essence is punishing him for betraying his nature.


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(More broadly, I'd like to place greater emphasis on the Contagion and Crusade's impact on all the Exalted who lived through it. The real, no kidding, end of the world staring them in the face, and were saved by the most unlikely piece of pure dumb luck. They saw death and destruction on unimaginable scales. That's gotta scar the soul.)

Oh, yes.
haren
Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:43:42 PM(UTC)

I have a version of Peleps Deled who is rather likable and seemingly sane. His faith was challenged as his world crumbled around him and the Realm started to fall. And he saw two paths. One he could leap down ending in a madness too scary for even him to comprehend, or one of self-introspection, forgiveness, thoughtfulness, and most of all, a lack of assumptions if possible. He was likable enough, that one of the PCs wanted him as her mentor and got him.

Amusingly, he even had a PC fanboy over him at one point, just happy to be helping the great man.
When noise turns to silence, when colors dull and pale, when reality no longer makes sense, there shall you find me. There, in the dreams of the River of Faceless Millions, do I dwell.
TryingToBeSlim
Thursday, March 08, 2012 5:45:16 AM(UTC)

The reason behind Haveesh the Vanisher actually exalting was made more clear in one of the old 1E games that I participated in.

Essentially while he was scum before exalting and worse scum after he exalting, at the moment he actually exalted he was being heroic as in defying his 'destiny' or the society that he grew up in.

Tagged for possible spoilers regarding the Vanisher:


In our game we tried 'showing him the right path for a Solar Exalted' but he ran away killing one of our retainers as he did so. Next time we simply decapitated him.
Hand-of-Omega
Friday, March 09, 2012 5:14:23 AM(UTC)

Lioness wrote:

What have you done with canonical NPCs to tailor them to your games?


Outside of the Deathlords, not a lot, really. Probably the most drastic change was making Amaya into a Zenith (who favors Occult and Medicine) instead of a Twilight, which just seems like common sense to me.

I did elaborate on Filial Wisdom's background, if that counts. He is the current holder of Merela's Exaltation. Instead of dying a quick, ignomineous death, she survived long enough to storm Heaven, seeking to confront her former lover with his betrayal, but was cut down by Sidereal elders. The Bronze Faction was unable to stop the Gods from erecting a monument where she fell, but they did have enough influence to whitewash the Dawn's identity (and even gender) from it, to prevent it from being a strong rallying point to those who supported the Lawgivers...So the Unknown Solar is her.

She survived long enough for her Essence to remain free, until FW claimed it. Lytek left her memories of her home in Rathess largely intact, which is why he was compelled to go there so strongly. His dream-memories of her life have enabled him to teach himself Eye of Heaven style MA (so he uses a Reaver Daiklave instead of a Grand one, which fits him better anyway, I think). If he were to find her hidden apartments in the Pyramid of the Sun, then the familiar surroundings would bump his Throwback Flaw from 3 to 5...So, then he'd have *2* personalities warring for control over his soul!

(This is all just me tying together things I see in Exalted's backstory, however. If actually playing a game, I'd probably prefer a PC be Merela's successor, if anyone...)

Lessee, anything else...I'm quite fond of the notion that Granalkin, the peerless Hunter on the Moon, takes the form of a giant wolf instead of the avian/insect look he's described as having. It's a shout-out to Werewolf the Forsaken's Father Wolf...

Dex
"Exalted is in many ways like Call of Cthulhu. Both can be set in a largely negative world and both contain mind-numbing horrors whose gentlest sneeze could kill half of Malaysia. The difference is the scope of fear; humans fear Cthulhu, Cthulhu fears the Exalted."

--Overheard on an rpg.net forum
vampire hunter D
Friday, March 09, 2012 5:59:22 AM(UTC)

OK, here's one difference between what I'd do with canon NPCs and want you all do. In y Creation Mnemon and Java fall in love with each other, and join up to take power together for the good of the Realm, as well as marry and share a bedchamber in the palace.

Of course, this all goes to Malfeas when Mnemon's mommy comes back
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Fabricati
Friday, March 09, 2012 8:31:36 AM(UTC)

-- The Empress has nothing to do with the Reclamation, and indeed, was never a Dragonblood in the first place.
SurlySeraph
Friday, March 09, 2012 2:35:02 PM(UTC)

Inugami wrote:
DShomshak wrote:
(More broadly, I'd like to place greater emphasis on the Contagion and Crusade's impact on all the Exalted who lived through it. The real, no kidding, end of the world staring them in the face, and were saved by the most unlikely piece of pure dumb luck. They saw death and destruction on unimaginable scales. That's gotta scar the soul.)

Oh, yes.

Thirded. We could use an old Lunar or Sidereal shaking people and shouting "You don't know, man! You don't know because you weren't there!" every time one of his students wonders if they really needed to nuke that plague-stricken village from orbit.
Bastet
Monday, April 09, 2012 8:02:11 PM(UTC)

Did anyone else see this and say that this was how they were going to portray Weeping Ration Cast Aside from now on?

Anys Syn by popular demand
Azmodael
Monday, April 09, 2012 9:14:44 PM(UTC)

Focuf is actually a solar exalted that has sacrificed all his dignity to bring down the Realm. He perhaps overdoes his role a bit as no one can be THAT incompetent, but so far it's working. Focuf staying alive is enough to prevent any competent ruler to steer the empire away from it's doom.
Prometheus878
Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:01:37 AM(UTC)

Brasstreader wrote:
yadeisko


What's a yadeisko?
Exalted is a game about many, many awesome things. The thing it's most about? Heroes.

Need proof? Here ya go:

Winterstar
Tuesday, April 10, 2012 4:58:52 AM(UTC)

Prometheus878 wrote:
Brasstreader wrote:
yadeisko


What's a yadeisko?


http://tvtropes.org/pmwi...php/Main/YamatoNadeshiko
Sylverdyne
Tuesday, April 10, 2012 5:32:32 AM(UTC)

vampire hunter D wrote:
Brasstreader wrote:

-The Maidens have a crush on Sol, but nobody crushes as hard as Saturn and Nysela. They compete for his attention like clingy jealous girlfriends. Both are begining to realize that the other goddess, as well as the Games of Divinity, are acting as distractions and third-wheels, but neither really knows what to do.


So basically the Incarna are a Harem comedy anime?


YOINK!
Brasstreader
Tuesday, April 10, 2012 1:59:37 PM(UTC)

Winterstar wrote:
Prometheus878 wrote:
Brasstreader wrote:
yadeisko


What's a yadeisko?


http://tvtropes.org/pmwi...php/Main/YamatoNadeshiko


So it appears I am terrible at spelling......
"The true interest of an absolute monarch generally coincides with that of his people. Their numbers, their wealth, their order, and their security, are the best and only foundations of his real greatness; and were he totally devoid of virtue, prudence might supply its place, and would dictate the same rule of conduct."
— Edward Gibbon, The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Chapter V .... in reaction to the Solars in the First Age.
Hand-of-Omega
Wednesday, April 11, 2012 7:46:04 AM(UTC)

Bastet wrote:
Did anyone else see this and say that this was how they were going to portray Weeping Ration Cast Aside from now on?


(Image keeps vanishing, go here to see it. Standard disclaimer that Oglaf is not normally safe for work.)



...I *still* can't see the picture. Thanks for the cool site, tho!emotion-2.gif

Dex
"Exalted is in many ways like Call of Cthulhu. Both can be set in a largely negative world and both contain mind-numbing horrors whose gentlest sneeze could kill half of Malaysia. The difference is the scope of fear; humans fear Cthulhu, Cthulhu fears the Exalted."

--Overheard on an rpg.net forum
Isator Levi
Wednesday, April 11, 2012 12:29:02 PM(UTC)

How weird. Just this morning, I was thinking about how I'd like to put something into this thread. And here it is.

(All right, strictly speaking it would go in the apparent Deathlords thread referred to in the first post, but this is here now)

You know what I think of the Bishop of the Chalcedony Thurible?

When I read about what he looked like, I was incredibly disappointed.

I mean, an old blind man in a tatty robe? I mean, I can appreciate a bit of austerity in character design, but how dull.

When I hear somebody with the title of bishop as the head of a religion, I think Catholic vestments.

Eastern Orthodox Catholic vestments*.

Say what you want about the Catholic Churches, but they've definitely got style.

Were I to ever portray the Bishop in a game, he's gonna be dressed to the nines in the most detailed, magnificent, deeply symbolic vestments I can think of. I nice blend of Catholic vestment and East Asian funereal garb and ghostly appearance I think. Top it off with a nice big hat.

I'll figure out some way to reconcile it with the philosophies he espouses, I'm sure.

Gonna need the Abyssals and Underworld books...

* I mean for Chrissakes, he even wields a crosier as a weapon!
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Bastet
Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:57:07 PM(UTC)

Hand-of-Omega wrote:

...I *still* can't see the picture. Thanks for the cool site, tho!emotion-2.gif

Try going to the comic link and refreshing the page. In the meantime the picture is back again here, for now.
Anys Syn by popular demand
God_of_Awesome
Wednesday, April 11, 2012 7:18:08 PM(UTC)

Not sure if this counts, but I came up with the idea of Fokuf being an Infernal before I found out it was already a thing.
Lioness
Friday, July 13, 2012 10:45:02 PM(UTC)

I'm worryingly tempted to base the Emissary of Nexus on Amon "You have disrupted trade in Nexus, now I will cleanse you of your impurity."
Holden wrote:
In 3e, Abyssals will trail rainbows after their sword swings, and rather than Crypt Bolts, they will fire kittens out of their fingertips. Their old Charmset will become the new Liminal Charm set. We thought that would be a fantastic idea.

(Come on, seriously? :p)
The Hug Ninja
Wednesday, January 09, 2013 4:13:19 PM(UTC)
I’ve had an idea for an alternate take on the Eye and Seven Despairs and his relationship with his Abyssals.

Essentially, rather than believing they've destroyed him they were able to convince him to relinquish command to them and he’s effectively moved into the basement to catch up on his research. For some the notion of a Deathlord servant is the perfect reversal of roles but others are far more concerned with this state of affairs, they can’t help but notice that whenever they receive a request from the basement circumstances conspire to ensure that the Eye and Seven Despairs gets whatever he wants.

Nobody goes into the basement if they can help it anymore, even the Abyssals think its a bit of a horror show down there.
The Chills and One Last Joke
Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:48:05 AM(UTC)

These days I always imagine Eye and Seven Despairs as Doctor Steel. This song in particular.

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WarDragon
Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:16:16 AM(UTC)

Azmodael wrote:
Focuf is actually a solar exalted that has sacrificed all his dignity to bring down the Realm. He perhaps overdoes his role a bit as no one can be THAT incompetent, but so far it's working. Focuf staying alive is enough to prevent any competent ruler to steer the empire away from it's doom.


No, no. He's a Solar working night and day to save and reform the Realm by mitigating the unjust laws and infighting that make people want to destroy it in the first place.
Sometimes it helps to ask yourself, "What Would The Ebon Dragon Do?" and then do the opposite of that.
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The Chills and One Last Joke
Saturday, January 12, 2013 7:27:27 PM(UTC)

Harmonious Jade has a few..personality quirks. For one, when left to her own devices in a strange environment her first instinct is to find a nearby improvised weapon and hide, regardless of the various annoyances this causes the rest of the circle.

For some reason, she thinks bad things happen if Arianna doesn't keep her hair braided and braids it while Ari is asleep. This could be related to the fact that the first time they met, she thought Arianna was a Second Circle Demon. In her defense, she was walking around with an honor guard of blood apes.

She collects beads. The Cult used them as positive reinforcement and prizes for sneaking and extraction training.
Swan uses this to find her whenever she does her disappearing act, by leaving a bright colored bead in an apparently empty room and turning his back for a moment.
If the bead is still there by the time he turns around, Jade isn't nearby.

It's pretty easy to tell if she trusts you or not. If not she'll keep her distance and do her damnedest to keep out of your line or sight, occasionally even lurking behind other people, peeking out whenever she thinks you aren't paying attention.

If she trusts you, she invades your personal space while you aren't looking.
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The Hanged Man
Sunday, January 13, 2013 1:43:30 AM(UTC)

Only a tiny handful of Canon NPCs haven't been explicitly removed from having ever existed in my version of Exalted. Dragonblooded tend to be safe, because there are enough of them that I don't feel like it's a waste of a spot to have one I don't like. Chejop Kejak is safe, because he's too inconvenient to write out of the setting, and most high-ranking Sidereal leaders get a pass because I just don't care, since they're so unlikely to cross paths with my PCs directly. The Deathlords, Yozis, Incarna and other entities occupying that "Final Boss of the Game" scale tend to be OK, but get rewritten in minor sneaky ways to throw curve balls at those of my players who have also read the books, or to reconcile contradictions in their presentation. Not a single published Lunar, Solar or Infernal Exalt currently occupies a position of existing in my games. A handful of Abyssals do, but mostly because I like their Names more than the actual character attached to it. Autochthonia and the Alchemicals are largely unchanged in my games... but my games haven't had a chance to visit them since their 2nd Ed. version was completed, so that's not saying much.

The number one rule for NPC inclusion, before I had created a big enough stack of my own NPCs that I didn't need to borrow any of the official ones, was that if a thing had a chance of being done by a PC (or having been done by them in their backstory), and that thing was cool enough that my players seemed likely to pursue it, an NPC wasn't allowed to do it first. Thus, Karal Fire Orchid ceases to be the only Solar from Lookshy, so a PC can take that spot. Black Ice Shadow ceases to be the Sidereal most specifically trained in counter-Underworld ops, so a PC can have that role. Anyone with an implied past-life relationship to another NPC, especially a Deathlord, loses that connection so FAFL can go "NO LUKE, I AM YOUR FIRST-AGE SELF" to a PC (I can't remember if there actually were any of those, or just fan-theories that solidified into canon in my head). You get the idea.

My Tepet Ejava may have a boyfriend who looks a lot like a cheesy author-insert from certain angles, but don't tell anyone I said so.

I haven't tackled the Lilun question, because I haven't had Infernal PCs yet. When I do, it's likely she won't be part of the story.

Every single new game I run, unless it's explicitly in-continuity with another game of mine, I come up with a new explanation for who the Emissary is, and where the Scarlet Empress has gone. Even if those things have nothing to do with the story (they usually don't), I like to have those questions answered.
indarkestknight
Sunday, January 13, 2013 2:09:23 AM(UTC)
The Hanged Man wrote:
Not a single published Lunar, Solar or Infernal Exalt currently occupies a position of existing in my games.


Wow, even the Bull of the North?
The Hanged Man
Sunday, January 13, 2013 4:17:45 AM(UTC)

indarkestknight wrote:
The Hanged Man wrote:
Not a single published Lunar, Solar or Infernal Exalt currently occupies a position of existing in my games.


Wow, even the Bull of the North?


That's a special case. A Solar Warlord did destroy the Tepet Legions, and his most widespread nickname is the Bull of the North, but the actual character bears no further resemblance to Yurgen Kaneko. I fleshed him out myself before more official attention was given than the few sentences in the 1st Ed. core, and I liked my version better.

Edit: Huh, just spotted that I already responded to this before the Necro Post. Interesting to see how things have changed in that year. There were indeed a handful of exceptions, but my last two games have culled those as well.
EndlessKng
Sunday, January 13, 2013 5:09:30 AM(UTC)

While I haven't put these changes to work in any game, based on their appearances in the art, I've made a few changes to the given stats for the Infernal Five. For example, Sulumore is at least at Essence 4 and has Soul-Sand Devil Shintai.

However, the biggest change probably came for Cyan, who I envision as being far more powerful - after all, she's able to pin Mnemon to the wall with her kunai. She didn't need to equal Mnemon in Essence, with the power of her ED excellency, but she is far more potent (I also envision her as having at least a couple of Kimbery charms, from the image at the beginning of the charm section).

Also, Peleps Deled has mastered the Water Dragon Style in my mind. He hasn't learned any of the others (though he may have learned Five Dragon, to help train his mortal retainers), but he does have the full tree of Water Dragon under his belt.
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Daredevil
Sunday, January 13, 2013 5:54:24 PM(UTC)

vampire hunter D wrote:
So basically the Incarna are a Harem comedy anime?



They weren't already???
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The Chills and One Last Joke
Friday, January 18, 2013 5:57:03 PM(UTC)

Arianna gets along with Demons better than people. This is because Demons are very set in their personality. When it comes to talking to Blood Apes or the like she knows the rules and taboos. With people there's no telling, at least to her anyway.

She's very curt with people, and immensely distrustful of them.

She's long since stopped shouting at Jade for braiding her hair in her sleep. Even if she finds the reason to be utterly harebrained. "If Creation does end, it'll be for a far less nonsensical reason than my hair being left undone."

Swan is likely the only person in the world that can talk her into do anything. Though she'll chide him the entire time if it's sufficiently altruistic to her.
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CrownedSun
Friday, January 18, 2013 7:16:21 PM(UTC)

Tepet Fokuf is one of the Dragon-Blooded. Moreover, he is a hero amongst the Terrestrial Exalted, treated reverently by all who approach him, for he has slain innumerable anathema and led armies to glorious victory in battle against the enemies of the Realm. He was even a lover of the Empress, a very long time ago, shortly after his commission as an officer in the mighty 17th Legion. However, this was all a very long time ago.

Tepet Fokuf has been retired for almost 25 years, and is nearing his 400th year.

The poor old Air Aspect is very much not well, both mentally and physically. He often forgets where he is and what is going on, and if he isn't carefully managed by Mnemon Laurie, a Wood Aspected Immaculate Monk who tends to the Regent and sees that he doesn't get himself into any trouble, he'll attempt to lead the various Courtiers on various military exercises or mock assaults on 'enemy positions.' Most of the time, Fokuf sits absorbed in the Immaculate Texts, only rousing when prodded to attend some matter of state. Now and again, though, a bit of the old Fokuf shines through the haze of age and senility. It's generally accepted by those who know such things that, without the constant attention of his Immaculate caregiver, Fokuf would already be dead. Even as things are, he probably has less than another 3-5 years.
Muadib
Friday, January 18, 2013 8:34:39 PM(UTC)

So.

Much.

Awesome.

In This Thread.

And yes, My Incarnae are explicitly Harem comedy, with the Maidens crushing on Sol, who crushed on Luna, who is happily with Gaia.

It's not the only way to run them, but it is fun.
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