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Errata as comments to the original PDFs
FearMeForIAmPink
Saturday, May 05, 2012 6:51:56 PM(UTC)

So, there have been various threads recently talking about how irritating it is to have to constantly go back and forth between the released books and the errata. Because either you're not sure what stuff is and isn't errataed, or for stuff like MoEP: Sidereals, even though most of the charms are errataed, half the errata is full replacement, half is 'change this bit.

Having this problem myself, and being the resident Exalted expert in the current Dark Ages: Exalted game I'm in (was oWoD multisplat game, now we're Exalts and Earth is getting more aspects of Creation as time goes on), I wanted to sort it out. Now, some people are working on compilations of all of the charms for each splat, with the errata included, however the downsides of those are that they're a huge amount of work, and once you've done that huge amount of work, the fact that it contains the full text of charms from the books means that there's issues with sharing that work with other Exalted players who could really use it.

I think I have found an at least partial solution.

Foxit PDF reader has fairly good commenting facilities; you put the comment marker somewhere, you have various options for what the marker looks like, then you enter the comment into the text box. You can view the comment by doubleclicking the comment (opening the text box, allowing you to edit it, and reposition or resize the text box), or by mouseover-ing the comment marker (though that only works if the comment can display below where your mouse is). Importantly, said comments can be exported, and if they're then imported into an identical PDF, the comment markers will appear in the same places throughout the PDF (though the resizing and repositioning of the expanded text boxes appears to be lost).

Now, I am hoping that I am okay to share these exported comments, because they contain only what is in the Scroll of Errata (plus occasional comments by me where there's obvious errors in the Scroll, notes that certain sections may be easier to read in the Scroll of errata, important authorial clarifications, and other things like that; said comments are clearly distinct from the errata) which is itself available for free, because I have included a list of the credits of those who worked on the errata with all of them, and because the errata is already repeated in other publically available places like the Exalted Wiki.

If White Wolf don't want me to share this, then I will take this stuff down as soon as they ask me to. But I'm hoping that won't be the case.

Now, this is still an imperfect solution; it's PDF only, Foxit Reader only (I had a look at Acrobat Reader, but its commenting function seems much less comprehensive, plus Foxit is what I use day to day) which also means its Windows only AFAIK. There can also be issues if the PDFs are not identical; I think some of the stuff I've got is the much older DriveThruRPG style of PDFs, and the page numbers may be different to more modern ones.

Therefore, you should still download the Scroll of Errata, both because there are times when it is easier to read the errata there, but more importantly because it shows White Wolf that errata is important to us. You should also still thank this post to get us PDFs (and hopefully PoDs) with the errata fully in them.

But these comment files, which I've been finding fairly handy in the game I'm in, should hopefully be useful for others. I've not done everything yet; I did all the stuff we were particularly using in the game I'm in, then the remaining Manuals of Exalted Power. I do intend to cover everything, but I figure what I've done so far is a good start, and a worthwhile level of stuff to share with people.



Here are the comments files. The 'may2012'/'june2012' in their names is just for my own use, to keep track of when I've exported the comments.

Main/original versions
(That which I've made originally, using my copies of the PDFs, in most cases best to download these, then if they don't match up look for an alternate version)

Exalted Second Edition Core

Manual of Exalted Power: Dragonblooded
Manual of Exalted Power: Lunars
Manual of Exalted Power: Sidereals
Manual of Exalted Power: Abyssals
Manual of Exalted Power: Infernals
Manual of Exalted Power: Alchemicals

Graceful Wicked Masques: The Fair Folk

Glories of the Most High: Unconquered Sun
Glories of the Most High: Luna

Thosand Correct Actions

Ink Monkeys: Ultimate Collection (Done on the November 21st, 2010 version)
Ink Monkeys: Ultimate Collection (Done on the January 6th, 2012 version; the one with added art)

Dreams of the First Age: Lords of Creation
(Errata of the errataed PDF, mostly just the addition of the Dawn and Dusk keywords, and the clarification of the Eclipse Anima power for the two charms that work similarly)

Glories of the Most High: Maidens of Destiny

The Broken-Winged Crane

Masters of Jade

Scrolls of Esoteric Wisdom: Scroll of the Monk
Scrolls of Esoteric Wisdom: Scroll of the Monk — The Imperfect Lotus
Scrolls of Esoteric Wisdom: Scroll of Kings
Scrolls of Esoteric Wisdom: Scroll of Fallen Races
Scrolls of Esoteric Wisdom: Scroll of Exalts


Books of Sorcery: Wonders of the Lost Age
Books of Sorcery: White and Black Treatises
Books of Sorcery: Oadenol's Codex
Books of Sorcery: Roll of Glorious Divininininity I: Gods and Elementals
Books of Sorcery: Roll of Glorious Divinity II: Ghosts and Demons

Compass of Terrestrial Directions: South

Compass of Celestial Directions: The Wyld



All the errata above in one zip file (includes the alternate versions below)



Alternate Versions


Exalted Second Edition Core — all comments moved forwards three pages (for the most recent version of the Core, the one that has hyperlinks and so forth in it)

Manual of Exalted Power: Dragonblooded — all comments moved forwards one page.

Manual of Exalted Power: Lunars — all comments moved forwards one page.

Manual of Exalted Power: Sidereals — All comments moved forwards one page.

Manual of Exalted Power: Abyssals — all comments moved forwards one page.


Manual of Exalted Power:Infernals — all comments moved backwards one page.







To load them into a file, go up to the menu, look for 'comments' or 'comments management' (it'll either be it's own menu or subsection of the single drop-down menu), and pick 'import comments data', then browse to the file and pick it. The comments should then appear in your PDF. They may take a moment to propagate, and there may be a moment of loading for them when you later open the PDF. You need to save the PDF with comments included for them to show up next time you use it.

If you are finding the comments are in the right place but on the wrong page, it's possible to edit the FDF files, and change just the page number without changing anything else; if anyone has this problem, tell me and I can run you through it/edit it myself (depending on how many changes are needed).

My plans for the future of this is to firstly cover all of the existing books current errata. (Edit: Done!) Then I'd like to add authorial clarifications, and other steath/forum errata that isn't currently covered. Finally, once all of that is done, I'm thinking of adding other useful information, like adding the names and locations all of the charms outside the MoEPs/core to the charm trees in those books, so you don't have to wonder whether that particular Infernals charm was in Ink Monkeys, Broken Winged Crane, or Scroll of the Monk 2: Monk Harder.

Things I could use the forums help on: Pointing out mistakes. Due to the sheer level of copying and pasting I did on this, there will be a few mistakes, a few places where the Scroll of Errata's hyphenation, strange capitalisation, or extra spaces have been left in. If anything looks wrong, tell me and I'll fix it, ditto on the aforementioned 'on the wrong page' stuff. Also, at some point, I'll want people to hunt down all the authorial clarifications we have, so I can add those.
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Exalted Errata as comments on your PDFs
Demetrius7997
Saturday, May 05, 2012 7:19:41 PM(UTC)

I don't think this is a legal issue. emotion-21.gif
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FearMeForIAmPink
Saturday, May 05, 2012 7:43:42 PM(UTC)

For some reason the last URL tag isn't working, if I delete it, it just turns to the next one up not working, so I've left it as is.

Demetrius7997 wrote:
I don't think this is a legal issue. emotion-21.gif


Cool, given the errata is someone elses work, wanted to make it clear I'm willing to take it down if required.
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curttasker
Saturday, May 05, 2012 8:11:41 PM(UTC)

Nice work. For the mac users out there, open the FDF comment file in adobe acrobat, help it find your original PDF, then re-save the entire PDF as a new document. Then you'll be able to use Preview to see the comments.
Drascin
Saturday, May 05, 2012 8:56:58 PM(UTC)

This is really awesome. It will certainly reduce the amount of ridiculous cross-referencing. Thanks!

(If you ever get to Graceful Wicked Masques you will have my undying loyalty)
FearMeForIAmPink
Saturday, May 05, 2012 9:10:31 PM(UTC)

curttasker wrote:
Nice work. For the mac users out there, open the FDF comment file in adobe acrobat, help it find your original PDF, then re-save the entire PDF as a new document. Then you'll be able to use Preview to see the comments.


Ah, awesome! Looking up the FDF format, it does seem a general PDF thing, just not one that all the readers have chosen to implement import/export on, which means there's hope for Linux as well as Mac users.

If there's anything I can do to make it easier to import it in certain programs, let me know.

Drascin wrote:
This is really awesome. It will certainly reduce the amount of ridiculous cross-referencing. Thanks!


Glad it's of use, and yeah; I'm currently considering a Sidereal character and the amount of back'n'forth that would require is quite painful, this makes it workable.

Quote:
(If you ever get to Graceful Wicked Masques you will have my undying loyalty)


I'm definitely planning to do it. Probably last, because of the size of it, but I'll get to it in time. Everything else other than it probably won't take me all that long, as there's bits and bobs, but not a huge amount in most of them, barring Dreams of the First Age where the only legal PDFs are the ones with the errata all in it (barring the tiny bit I've covered above).

Then I shall take the fight to the Raksha, and though that fight may be long, my calcifying blade of Errata will carry the day.
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Jorlem
Sunday, May 06, 2012 1:10:12 AM(UTC)

Is there any chance you might do a fix for the latest version of the Core, the one with the hyperlinks and improved bookmarking? The comments are coming out in the wrong places when I try to use it. Also, I think I noticed that the comment for falling damage was duplicated.

Thank you for this. This is awesome!
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FearMeForIAmPink
Sunday, May 06, 2012 2:49:45 AM(UTC)

Jorlem wrote:
Is there any chance you might do a fix for the latest version of the Core, the one with the hyperlinks and improved bookmarking? The comments are coming out in the wrong places when I try to use it.


Could you do a quick check and see if they're generally in the wrong place altogether, or just on the wrong pages, but in the right places? As the latter is an easier fix than the former.

Jorlem wrote:
Also, I think I noticed that the comment for falling damage was duplicated.


Good spot! I think I may have been considering doubling up on stuff that crossed a page boundary when I did that one, but then decided not to do so (though I've duplicated some other bits of errata where it applies to multiple things; like the ruling on perfect defences counting as applying DV for charms that require such).

Have updated the core book and general zip with the double-falling removed

Jorlem wrote:
Thank you for this. This is awesome!


Glad people are liking it, and getting use out of it. Makes all the cutting and pasting worthwhile emotion-46.gifemotion-11.gif
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KtheGreat
Sunday, May 06, 2012 3:56:18 AM(UTC)

Wow, this has really saved me a lot of hassle in designing a Sidereal character. You have my thanks for this awesome creation.
Jorlem
Sunday, May 06, 2012 4:16:59 AM(UTC)

FearMeForIAmPink wrote:
Jorlem wrote:
Is there any chance you might do a fix for the latest version of the Core, the one with the hyperlinks and improved bookmarking? The comments are coming out in the wrong places when I try to use it.


Could you do a quick check and see if they're generally in the wrong place altogether, or just on the wrong pages, but in the right places? As the latter is an easier fix than the former.

Taking a closer look, it appears that all the comments are shifted three pages up from where they should be. For example, the comment for Spirit Cutting attack is coming out on top of Order Affirming Blow.
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zenfiero
Sunday, May 06, 2012 7:27:42 AM(UTC)

Oh, gosh, this is fantastic! You, sir, are a hero!
Jorlem
Sunday, May 06, 2012 10:08:35 AM(UTC)

Jorlem wrote:
FearMeForIAmPink wrote:
Jorlem wrote:
Is there any chance you might do a fix for the latest version of the Core, the one with the hyperlinks and improved bookmarking? The comments are coming out in the wrong places when I try to use it.


Could you do a quick check and see if they're generally in the wrong place altogether, or just on the wrong pages, but in the right places? As the latter is an easier fix than the former.

Taking a closer look, it appears that all the comments are shifted three pages up from where they should be. For example, the comment for Spirit Cutting attack is coming out on top of Order Affirming Blow.

It occurred to me that I might have worded that poorly. When I said shifted 'up', I was thinking of how I scroll downward to get to higher numbered pages, not that they were shifted to a page that is higher numbered then they should be on. Sorry about any possible confusion.
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FearMeForIAmPink
Sunday, May 06, 2012 2:06:19 PM(UTC)

Jorlem wrote:
Jorlem wrote:
FearMeForIAmPink wrote:
Jorlem wrote:
Is there any chance you might do a fix for the latest version of the Core, the one with the hyperlinks and improved bookmarking? The comments are coming out in the wrong places when I try to use it.


Could you do a quick check and see if they're generally in the wrong place altogether, or just on the wrong pages, but in the right places? As the latter is an easier fix than the former.

Taking a closer look, it appears that all the comments are shifted three pages up from where they should be. For example, the comment for Spirit Cutting attack is coming out on top of Order Affirming Blow.

It occurred to me that I might have worded that poorly. When I said shifted 'up', I was thinking of how I scroll downward to get to higher numbered pages, not that they were shifted to a page that is higher numbered then they should be on. Sorry about any possible confusion.


I assumed that was what you meant before you clarified, but thanks for making it absolutely clear.

If it's purely a case that the page numbering in the hyperlinked core is three later than that in the version I used, and that everything is otherwise positioned in the same place, then this version should solve that. Give it a try and let me know if they're in the right places (even if they're not, this at least gets them all on the right page, meaning it's a quicker job for me to reposition them, should that be needed).
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Jorlem
Sunday, May 06, 2012 2:41:14 PM(UTC)

FearMeForIAmPink wrote:
Jorlem wrote:
Jorlem wrote:
FearMeForIAmPink wrote:
Jorlem wrote:
Is there any chance you might do a fix for the latest version of the Core, the one with the hyperlinks and improved bookmarking? The comments are coming out in the wrong places when I try to use it.


Could you do a quick check and see if they're generally in the wrong place altogether, or just on the wrong pages, but in the right places? As the latter is an easier fix than the former.

Taking a closer look, it appears that all the comments are shifted three pages up from where they should be. For example, the comment for Spirit Cutting attack is coming out on top of Order Affirming Blow.

It occurred to me that I might have worded that poorly. When I said shifted 'up', I was thinking of how I scroll downward to get to higher numbered pages, not that they were shifted to a page that is higher numbered then they should be on. Sorry about any possible confusion.


I assumed that was what you meant before you clarified, but thanks for making it absolutely clear.

If it's purely a case that the page numbering in the hyperlinked core is three later than that in the version I used, and that everything is otherwise positioned in the same place, then this version should solve that. Give it a try and let me know if they're in the right places (even if they're not, this at least gets them all on the right page, meaning it's a quicker job for me to reposition them, should that be needed).

A quick glance through, and it looks like they are all on the right pages, and in the right places on those pages. Thanks!
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Incendius
Sunday, May 06, 2012 3:37:44 PM(UTC)

All the comments for the Infernals book are one page past where they should be for me; they are in the right spot, just one page past where they should be. I've been looking for a way to edit fdf files, but it doesn't seem easy, could you possibly redo a file with the page numbers corrected?

I am also having a similar problem for Lunars, except the pages are one page before where they should be, right spot, but too early in the pdf.
FearMeForIAmPink
Sunday, May 06, 2012 4:20:07 PM(UTC)

Jorlem wrote:
A quick glance through, and it looks like they are all on the right pages, and in the right places on those pages. Thanks!


Awesomesauce! I can fairly quickly edit page numbers, but repositioning manually takes rather longer, so I'm glad it's all slotted in right.

Incendius wrote:
All the comments for the Infernals book are one page past where they should be for me; they are in the right spot, just one page past where they should be.


Hopefully this should have them all in the right place

Incendius wrote:
I've been looking for a way to edit fdf files, but it doesn't seem easy,


They're actually just text, it's about knowing what you're looking for in said text to adjust it.

Quote:
I am also having a similar problem for Lunars, except the pages are one page before where they should be, right spot, but too early in the pdf.


Here's a version that should solve that.

I've also been told that my Ink Monkeys errata is more complicatedly out of order; that'd be because I have the pre-art version, I'll download the art version and upload it in a bit.
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Sanctaphrax
Sunday, May 06, 2012 10:48:44 PM(UTC)

I don't have any of the appropriate PDFs, so I can't use this. I have no idea well it works.

But if it works at all, it's pretty awesome. So I'm going to go advertise this on RPGnet.
Go here to get feedback on your work.
Go here to see other people's NPCs.
Go here to download comment files that add the latest errata to Exalted PDFs.
FearMeForIAmPink
Sunday, May 06, 2012 11:22:16 PM(UTC)

Added Broken Winged Crane and Glories: Maidens.

Given the non-MoEP, non-Core, non-Raksha errata combined is shorter than any of those three, it shouldn't take me too long to get through it all now, Graceful Wicked Masques will take a while as it's not massively high priority, but it'll get done.

Sanctaphrax wrote:
I don't have any of the appropriate PDFs, so I can't use this. I have no idea well it works.

But if it works at all, it's pretty awesome. So I'm going to go advertise this on RPGnet.


Oooh, that's a point, I have an RPG.net account (that I very rarely use). I shall join in advertising it…
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FearMeForIAmPink
Monday, May 07, 2012 3:57:39 PM(UTC)

Added Masters of Jade. Also, fuck flood detection.
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Kiren
Monday, May 07, 2012 6:37:28 PM(UTC)

Thank you for these! I noticed that your Lunars files did not have all the errata in (at least, when I used them), so I've filled in the missing bits.
Lunar Errata Completed (I hope) emotion-5.gif

(I hope this works, I've only just started using dropbox).
FearMeForIAmPink
Monday, May 07, 2012 10:59:14 PM(UTC)

Kiren wrote:
Thank you for these! I noticed that your Lunars files did not have all the errata in (at least, when I used them), so I've filled in the missing bits.
Lunar Errata Completed (I hope) emotion-5.gif

(I hope this works, I've only just started using dropbox).


Ahhhh, my thanks and my apologies. I think that's because it was during doing the Lunar errata that I realised I wanted to have the character generation errata in all the books, so did that everywhere, and forgot about the rest of the Lunar stuff.

I've gone through what you've done, looks good to me. I've made a few adjustments; adding extra linebreaks, turning the curlier apostrophes from the Scroll of errata into flat ones (as the curly ones show up like this "It 's alive! It' s alive!" rather than "It's alive", at least on my computer) and so forth. But thanks for a good spot and good work.

Would you like me to add you to the credits for that one?

I also notice you've adjusted the charmtrees with the appropriate arrows and gaps, I think once I've done everything I'll go back and do that with the rest, though I may make it more apparent on the places where there used to be a prereq that that's the case, as the white rectangles make it a bit too invisible otherwise.

Have uploaded my adjustments to your adjustments to replace the current version of that, and am just about to go and make edit: have just finished making a one page adjusted one for Incendius (and anyone else who needs it).
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Kiren
Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:55:01 AM(UTC)

FearMeForIAmPink wrote:
I've gone through what you've done, looks good to me. I've made a few adjustments; adding extra linebreaks, turning the curlier apostrophes from the Scroll of errata into flat ones (as the curly ones show up like this "It 's alive! It' s alive!" rather than "It's alive", at least on my computer) and so forth. But thanks for a good spot and good work.

Actually they showed up like that for me as well, I left them as I wasn't sure if it was just my computer. emotion-10.gif

FearMeForIAmPink wrote:
Would you like me to add you to the credits for that one?

Yes please.

FearMeForIAmPink wrote:
I also notice you've adjusted the charmtrees with the appropriate arrows and gaps, I think once I've done everything I'll go back and do that with the rest, though I may make it more apparent on the places where there used to be a prereq that that's the case, as the white rectangles make it a bit too invisible otherwise.

Good idea, do you know if its possible to alter the appearance of FoxPro's arrows (so they match a bit closer)?

FearMeForIAmPink wrote:
Have uploaded my adjustments to your adjustments to replace the current version of that, and am just about to go and make edit: have just finished making a one page adjusted one for Incendius (and anyone else who needs it).

Thanks!
What happens if I install two overlapping sets of comments on FoxPro - do I get 'doubled up' coments?
FearMeForIAmPink
Tuesday, May 08, 2012 1:14:15 PM(UTC)

Kiren wrote:
FearMeForIAmPink wrote:
I've gone through what you've done, looks good to me. I've made a few adjustments; adding extra linebreaks, turning the curlier apostrophes from the Scroll of errata into flat ones (as the curly ones show up like this "It 's alive! It' s alive!" rather than "It's alive", at least on my computer) and so forth. But thanks for a good spot and good work.

Actually they showed up like that for me as well, I left them as I wasn't sure if it was just my computer. emotion-10.gif


Eh, I've seen them across lots of PDFs, and generally removed them via find and replace in notepad++, so it's no biggie to have assumed the other way.

Kiren wrote:
FearMeForIAmPink wrote:
Would you like me to add you to the credits for that one?

Yes please.


Just as 'Kiren' I assume?

Kiren wrote:
FearMeForIAmPink wrote:
I also notice you've adjusted the charmtrees with the appropriate arrows and gaps, I think once I've done everything I'll go back and do that with the rest, though I may make it more apparent on the places where there used to be a prereq that that's the case, as the white rectangles make it a bit too invisible otherwise.

Good idea, do you know if its possible to alter the appearance of FoxPro's arrows (so they match a bit closer)?


Not sure. TBH, my preference would be for arrows that look arrow-y, but which don't match too closely to the ones in the book, so it's apparent that they are an errata change.

Kiren wrote:
FearMeForIAmPink wrote:
Have uploaded my adjustments to your adjustments to replace the current version of that, and am just about to go and make edit: have just finished making a one page adjusted one for Incendius (and anyone else who needs it).

Thanks!
What happens if I install two overlapping sets of comments on FoxPro - do I get 'doubled up' coments?


No idea. I've kept an uncommented copy of everything for this reason.
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Imrix
Tuesday, May 08, 2012 1:32:17 PM(UTC)



Also, a special extra message should Mr. Demmywinks see this:

Kiren
Tuesday, May 08, 2012 3:01:48 PM(UTC)

FearMeForIAmPink wrote:
Just as 'Kiren' I assume?

Yes, that would be fine.

FearMeForIAmPink wrote:
Not sure. TBH, my preference would be for arrows that look arrow-y, but which don't match too closely to the ones in the book, so it's apparent that they are an errata change.


Could make them a different colour to stand out.

FearMeForIAmPink wrote:
No idea. I've kept an uncommented copy of everything for this reason.


I, unfortunately, didn't (but I could just download a new pdf from DriveThruRPG if I break the old one).
FearMeForIAmPink
Thursday, May 10, 2012 1:53:55 AM(UTC)

Sorry things have slowed down, i've been rather busy worki on improving the UK's democracy. Fortunately that should be sorted before too long, at which point my uploading speed will go up again.

Kiren wrote:
FearMeForIAmPink wrote:
Just as 'Kiren' I assume?

Yes, that would be fine.


Done, sorry it took me a little while to get that in and uploaded..

Kiren wrote:
FearMeForIAmPink wrote:
Not sure. TBH, my preference would be for arrows that look arrow-y, but which don't match too closely to the ones in the book, so it's apparent that they are an errata change.


Could make them a different colour to stand out
.

I'll have a look/play when I get through adding all the errata text
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FearMeForIAmPink
Saturday, May 12, 2012 2:34:35 AM(UTC)

Have added the following:

Scrolls of Esoteric Wisdom: Scroll of the Monk
Scrolls of Esoteric Wisdom: Scroll of the Monk — The Imperfect Lotus
Scrolls of Esoteric Wisdom: Scroll of Kings
Scrolls of Esoteric Wisdom: Scroll of Fallen Races
Scrolls of Esoteric Wisdom: Scroll of Exalts


Books of Sorcery: Wonders of the Lost Age
Books of Sorcery: White and Black Treatises
Books of Sorcery: Oadenol's Codex
Books of Sorcery: Roll of Glorious Divininininity I: Gods and Elementals
Books of Sorcery: Roll of Glorious Divinity II: Ghosts and Demons

Compass of Terrestrial Directions: South

Compass of Celestial Directions: The Wyld



As far as I am aware, that's everything other than Graceful Wicked Masques done. So, I'm now going to start the slow process of doing that (well, not right now. Right now, I'm going to finish my cider and go to bed, as it's half three in the morning), though I'll probably do a redo of Ink Monkeys for the version of that with art added first.

It'll take me a while to do GWM, but I've gotten into the swing of this, I know how to do it fairly quick, so it shouldn't be too long.

As before, I'm very much after people looking at what I've done and pointing out any errors; the sheer amount of copying and pasting, removing linebreaks and suchlike that I've done means that some errors will almost certainly have crept in.
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The Demented One
Saturday, May 12, 2012 2:36:04 AM(UTC)

FearMeForIAmPink wrote:

As far as I am aware, that's everything other than Graceful Wicked Masques done. So, I'm now going to start the slow process of doing that (well, not right now. Right now, I'm going to finish my cider and go to bed, as it's half three in the morning), though I'll probably do a redo of Ink Monkeys for the version of that with art added first.

It'll take me a while to do GWM, but I've gotten into the swing of this, I know how to do it fairly quick, so it shouldn't be too long.

As before, I'm very much after people looking at what I've done and pointing out any errors; the sheer amount of copying and pasting, removing linebreaks and suchlike that I've done means that some errors will almost certainly have crept in.

You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.

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Saturday, May 12, 2012 3:38:23 AM(UTC)

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FearMeForIAmPink
Saturday, May 12, 2012 1:42:52 PM(UTC)

Have added another version of the Ink Monkeys: Ultimate Collection, for the more recent version of such that has art added.
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Fanservice
Saturday, May 12, 2012 3:01:33 PM(UTC)

Just gone through them a few work fine but my issues are thus!


Abyssals, Dragonbloods and Lunars the comments all appear one page behind. So Page 10 comments are found on page 9.

Core Book Comments all appear three pages behind. So Page 10 comments are found on page 7

Alchemicals, Infernals, Glories, Ink Monkies and Thousand Actions all work just fine.

I don't have Lords of the First Age in PDF form so can't say for that.

Thanks!
FearMeForIAmPink
Saturday, May 12, 2012 3:29:28 PM(UTC)

Fanservice wrote:
Abyssals, Dragonbloods and Lunars the comments all appear one page behind. So Page 10 comments are found on page 9.

Core Book Comments all appear three pages behind. So Page 10 comments are found on page 7

Alchemicals, Infernals, Glories, Ink Monkies and Thousand Actions all work just fine.

I don't have Lords of the First Age in PDF form so can't say for that.

Thanks!


FearMeForIAmPink wrote:
Alternate Versions


Exalted Second Edition Core — all comments moved forwards three pages (for the most recent version of the Core, the one that has hyperlinks and so forth in it)

Manual of Exalted Power:Lunars — all comments moved forwards one page.

Manual of Exalted Power:Abyssals — all comments moved forwards one page.


Dragonblooded you're the first to raise, I'll probably do that one sometime tomorrow.
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Fanservice
Saturday, May 12, 2012 3:30:57 PM(UTC)

Sorry! My bad for not reading the lot really emotion-10.gif

Also I'd just like to thank you again for this. It is going to make my life so much easier and I really do appreciate all the effort you've put into it. If you ever need an Exalted book and can't afford it right away then just ask! I'll spin one your way.
Lord Darkview
Saturday, May 12, 2012 4:53:39 PM(UTC)
Does comments saved in Foxit translate well to other PDF readers? That's my only concern. I haven't gotten to test it.
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LaughingGranny
Sunday, May 13, 2012 3:07:40 AM(UTC)

Translates fine on adobe
FearMeForIAmPink
Sunday, May 13, 2012 6:16:00 AM(UTC)

Fanservice wrote:
Sorry! My bad for not reading the lot really emotion-10.gif


Eh, there's a lot of text up there. Plus, I'd rather you raised it than not; I want this to cover everything as much as is possible so better ask with some of it be unneccessary, than to not ask, and have some missed out

Fanservice wrote:
Also I'd just like to thank you again for this. It is going to make my life so much easier and I really do appreciate all the effort you've put into it. If you ever need an Exalted book and can't afford it right away then just ask! I'll spin one your way.


Aww, thanks emotion-10.gif It started as something just for myself, but I'm glad it's helping lots of people out, and I have to admit that I'm enough of a praise-whore that I'm really enjoying people's positive reactions to it.

Lord Darkview wrote:
Does comments saved in Foxit translate well to other PDF readers? That's my only concern. I haven't gotten to test it.


.fdf is a part of the PDF specification, and has a set markup language meaning it's at least theoretically compatible across different readers. curttasker above managed to get it working with Preview on a Mac via importing it through Adobe Reader, saving the file and then opening it in Preview.

I've not personally got it to work in Reader, on the other hand I spent maybe thirty seconds trying, which is why I've assumed above that it doesn't work. However...

LaughingGranny wrote:
Translates fine on adobe


... this suggests it may well be more viable than I thought; I can tone down the 'It only works in Foxit' description of the first post, though I'll still note that's what I've done it through, and I'm less able to offer 'tech support' to people not using that.
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curttasker
Sunday, May 13, 2012 8:40:30 AM(UTC)

FearMeForIAmPink wrote:
curttasker above managed to get it working with Preview on a Mac via importing it through Adobe Reader, saving the file and then opening it in Preview.


Just a clarification, I used Adobe Acrobat, not Adobe Reader. I'm pretty sure that once the comments are saved into the PDF (using acrobat, foxit, etc), they should show up in any PDF reader program.
FearMeForIAmPink
Sunday, May 13, 2012 6:15:29 PM(UTC)

Have added the page adjusted Dragonblooded comments.
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Weimann
Monday, May 14, 2012 12:33:02 PM(UTC)

Hm, I have missed this before. I definitely need to check it out once I have some more spare time. emotion-3.gif

Edit: Okay, screw it. I checked it out now and it's awesome. Really, really great. I can't believe how handy it is. The only thing better could be to get the books actually reprinted, but but this is much more flexible and now I can even edit the comments myself when new errata comes out. Really, I didn't even know comments were a thing.

The problem I see right off the bat is that some of the misprints and editing artefacts that appear in the Scroll of Errata is still there. For example, in Core p.149 (just above the guy stabbing a dog), the comment references Essence ping as minimum damage. That's been clarified as an editing mistake on the forums, but it really confused me the first time I read it. It could use getting removed, or at least noted that it was a mistake and should be ignored. I completely understand that you can't catch all of that, but I thought I'd point it out.

But yeah, this is absolutely fantastic.
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FearMeForIAmPink
Monday, May 14, 2012 1:48:12 PM(UTC)

Weimann wrote:
Hm, I have missed this before. I definitely need to check it out once I have some more spare time. emotion-3.gif

Edit: Okay, screw it. I checked it out now and it's awesome. Really, really great. I can't believe how handy it is. The only thing better could be to get the books actually reprinted, but but this is much more flexible and now I can even edit the comments myself when new errata comes out. Really, I didn't even know comments were a thing.

The problem I see right off the bat is that some of the misprints and editing artefacts that appear in the Scroll of Errata is still there. For example, in Core p.149 (just above the guy stabbing a dog), the comment references Essence ping as minimum damage. That's been clarified as an editing mistake on the forums, but it really confused me the first time I read it. It could use getting removed, or at least noted that it was a mistake and should be ignored. I completely understand that you can't catch all of that, but I thought I'd point it out.

But yeah, this is absolutely fantastic.


I've been catching or adding 'FearMeForIAmPink Commentary: ..." to stuff where I can; where I notice it and feel I can make a reasonably informed comment on it (and secure in the knowledge that anyone who dislikes said commentary can easily delete it from their particular version).

If it's something that's very definitely a misprint/issue in the Scroll of Errata, I can correct it tonight.

Basically, I wanted to get the basics, the definite 'this is the stuff from the Scroll of Errata' stuff done first, then once I've finished that (which ATM basically means 'Graceful Wicked Masques', which is happening ATM, and shouldn't take too long), I was going to make other additions.

My current plans are (in no particular order):

  • Add to the Core and the MoEP arrows-notes on the charm trees, plus a full list at the start of each ability/attribute/whatever, of all the charms that are of that splat-type, but are not in the MoEP/Core itself. Basically so that you only have to look at one book to have at least a broad idea what your options are.
  • Add all the authorial intent/clarifications that we have, preferably with links to the appropriate forum discussions where they were stated.
  • Anything else people can come up with that can be easily added in this fashion


One thing that should help is that I can fairly easily do these extra projects as separate files, so you can import them and save, and they'll sit next to the official errata, but you don't have to have them if you don't want 'em.
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Xelian
Monday, May 14, 2012 1:52:07 PM(UTC)

Good job man. I've done this myself with the Core and the Lunar Book but I didn't know you can export only the comments as separate file. Good job emotion-1.gif
Weimann
Monday, May 14, 2012 4:13:24 PM(UTC)

So, a little question. I was in the process of importing these comments, and I manged to get the most important ones, like the core and MoEP ones, working. However, the newer pdfs seem to not allow me saving the comments in them. Maybe they are locked somehow.

It's not a big deal, importing the comments is instantaneous and they do show up once I do it. But I was wondering if anyone knew a solution to this? I'm using PDF-XChange Viewer. Would switching over to Foxit solve this issue, possibly?

Edit: This worked out. It seems that my program didn't always register importing comments as a "change", so it didn't activate the save function. I just had to make some other change, like and and then remove and empty note or stamp or whatever, and then it worked just fine.
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Odd Man Out
Monday, May 14, 2012 5:11:39 PM(UTC)

Brilliant idea. Sidereals is one page off for me though.
FearMeForIAmPink
Monday, May 14, 2012 5:22:40 PM(UTC)

Odd Man Out wrote:
Brilliant idea. Sidereals is one page off for me though.


Which direction? Are the notes one page too early, or one page too late?
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Odd Man Out
Monday, May 14, 2012 5:27:29 PM(UTC)

Too early.
FearMeForIAmPink
Monday, May 14, 2012 10:52:30 PM(UTC)

Odd Man Out wrote:
Too early.


This should fix that. However, due to the amount of errata there, I've done that one via find and replace, so it's possible I may have made a mistake some point along it, resulting in things hilariously out of place. Tell me if so.
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Odd Man Out
Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:00:31 AM(UTC)

Many thanks. So far, so good.
Xeno426
Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:12:28 PM(UTC)

I tend to rename my pdfs to a specific format (For exalted, it's "Exalted - 2e - [book name]). However, every time I open the fdf file it can't find the pdf it wants, and I have to manually steer it to my renamed pdf file. Is there a way to permanently change the name of the pdf it looks for?
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Jorlem
Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:03:49 PM(UTC)

Xeno426 wrote:
I tend to rename my pdfs to a specific format (For exalted, it's "Exalted - 2e - [book name]). However, every time I open the fdf file it can't find the pdf it wants, and I have to manually steer it to my renamed pdf file. Is there a way to permanently change the name of the pdf it looks for?

After you load the comments in once, just save the pdf file. It will load with the errata comments automatically after that.
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FearMeForIAmPink
Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:32:28 PM(UTC)

Update: I've got the Graceful Wicked Masques errata out of the Scroll, removed all the extra linebreaks and done the various find-and-replaces and other minor corrections needed, will be putting it into GWM over the next few days.

Jorlem wrote:
Xeno426 wrote:
I tend to rename my pdfs to a specific format (For exalted, it's "Exalted - 2e - [book name]). However, every time I open the fdf file it can't find the pdf it wants, and I have to manually steer it to my renamed pdf file. Is there a way to permanently change the name of the pdf it looks for?

After you load the comments in once, just save the pdf file. It will load with the errata comments automatically after that.


Aye, certainly in Foxit you can just save the file with them in.
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